[Ellie English]

I would be curious to know what the size of your save file is.

I can't get that info at the moment. But I'll check tonight. I usually stop a character around level 35 or so and start a new one. I usually will just head the opposite direction I went with the last character and see where the game takes me.

[Vickey Martinez]

It's not my PS3. Every other game I've played runs fine, Oblivion ran WAY better than Skyrim does. I stopped playing that after my main character's file corrupted. The only problems I've really had are with Bethesda games, but besides New Vegas they've never been as bad as my Skyrim experience.

See, I have two version of Fallout-NV and they both run really well. Some freezing but it happens so rarely. Please don't think that I don't believe you and the issues that you are having with the game(s). My experience just has been the complete opposite. And for all the hell that Bethesda is taking here, folks need to know there are some that don't have any problems at all.

[Amy Siebenhaar]

The people that don't have problems aren't the problem. Bethesda released a broken game, and has shown little to no support for it. The last update only made my game worse than it already was. They promised that the PS3 version would have equal support and would not be having the problems that it has. That's obviously not been the case with the delayed patches and DLC.

All the hell Bethesda is taking is deserved. They took my 60 dollars promising that I wouldn't have the same experience as their previous games, and they didn't deliver. They swindled people out of money, and have made no effort to make up for it.

And starting over whenever your character reaches 35 is probably why you don't experience the issues.

[lucy chadwick]

The people that don't have problems aren't the problem. Bethesda released a broken game, and has shown little to no support for it. The last update only made my game worse than it already was. They promised that the PS3 version would have equal support and would not be having the problems that it has. That's obviously not been the case with the delayed patches and DLC.

All the hell Bethesda is taking is deserved. They took my 60 dollars promising that I wouldn't have the same experience as their previous games, and they didn't deliver. They swindled people out of money, and have made no effort to make up for it.

And starting over whenever your character reaches 35 is probably why you don't experience the issues.

Perhaps, but I WAS hoping for the same experience as their other games. They did deliver, in my experience. Its too bad others haven't gotten the same.

[Symone Velez]

I can't get that info at the moment. But I'll check tonight. I usually stop a character around level 35 or so and start a new one. I usually will just head the opposite direction I went with the last character and see where the game takes me.

Well, that could be part of the reason you've been "lucky". My save file never got really big, even though one character got to about level 53. I didn't have near the problems other players did, and they really DID! I've seen videos of truly unplayable games. After the latest patch lag started right out of Helgen., even for me. Maybe you didn't notice?

These problems are REAL, and though some don't have as many as others, they exist in one form or another on every PS3. We need to respect the deep disappointment this game has caused for a LOT of people.

[Rachael]

Well, that could be part of the reason you've been "lucky". My save file never got really big, even though one character got to about level 53. I didn't have near the problems other players did, and they really DID! I've seen videos of truly unplayable games. After the latest patch lag started right out of Helgen., even for me. Maybe you didn't notice?

These problems are REAL, and though some don't have as many as others, they exist in one form or another on every PS3. We need to respect the deep disappointment this game has caused for a LOT of people.

My character is level 63 and I don't have too many problems with the game. Some patches fixed mine but you're right, I've seen some that are unplayable. The water freeze was also a pain and the player has to patch that themselves (not Bethesda)

[Louise]

Well, that could be part of the reason you've been "lucky". My save file never got really big, even though one character got to about level 53. I didn't have near the problems other players did, and they really DID! I've seen videos of truly unplayable games. After the latest patch lag started right out of Helgen., even for me. Maybe you didn't notice?

These problems are REAL, and though some don't have as many as others, they exist in one form or another on every PS3. We need to respect the deep disappointment this game has caused for a LOT of people.

I respect how angry PS3 owners are fully, I don't blame you at all for your disappointment.

[Nana Samboy]

Well, that could be part of the reason you've been "lucky". My save file never got really big, even though one character got to about level 53. I didn't have near the problems other players did, and they really DID! I've seen videos of truly unplayable games. After the latest patch lag started right out of Helgen., even for me. Maybe you didn't notice?

These problems are REAL, and though some don't have as many as others, they exist in one form or another on every PS3. We need to respect the deep disappointment this game has caused for a LOT of people.

Please don’t mistake my post as disrespect for anyone having troubles. I don't believe anyone is making up their hardships and emphasize with them on their difficulties. However, post after post after post here is slamming Bethesda for negligence. I just wanted to add my voice to the discussion saying not everyone is having issues, and to Bethesda's credit, they have created one of the best games I have ever played. Well, still playing actually.

[Adrian Powers]

Please don’t mistake my post as disrespect for anyone having troubles. I don't believe anyone is making up their hardships and emphasize with them on their difficulties. However, post after post after post here is slamming Bethesda for negligence. I just wanted to add my voice to the discussion saying not everyone is having issues, and to Bethesda's credit, they have created one of the best games I have ever played. Well, still playing actually.

I've been slamming Bethesda fairly consistent, but I've also stated that I still play the game and more importantly that I want to play the game. I believe that is truly another artistic masterpiece they've created, but it's hard to appreciate that art in it's entirety when you can't play it fully. I rarely make more than 1 character and max them out or take them all the way through. I did that for FO3, but only to get the Good/Neutral/Evil achievements.

So don't get some of us that slam Bethesda wrong either, Skyrim is still a great game I'm sure. Why? Because we know what it can be when optimized correctly (see the Xbox version, and more so the PC version even before modders get their hands on it). It's just statements that made me want to get this game, like others, about the equal support and how it was optimized to be on par with it's counterparts on another platform were all put out there as hype but what most people experienced makes those statements false and it angers people because they fell they have been lied to. Could it be an honest mistake? Sure it could. However, whether it was hype or an honest mistake, it's intolerable either way because this company has had years now to work with the platform to get things right and when they claim that they have, they still show the same growing ineptitude.

Again, they made a terrific game and they won some awards for it (though if it was solely PS3 awards, they wouldn't have received jack-[censored]). As a consumer, you can only take so much before you say "no more". It starts to cross that line between ignorance which can be forgivable to a point, and arrogance which is never forgivable unless it is deserved arrogance.

I once had a "No Fear" t-shirt that said "Not Arrogant, Just Good" on it. If you really are "just good", you're not really arrogant, but Bethesda seems to maintain that status that they are that good, but on the PS3 they're not and it turns itself into arrogance.

[Janine Rose]

I've been slamming Bethesda fairly consistent, but I've also stated that I still play the game and more importantly that I want to play the game. I believe that is truly another artistic masterpiece they've created, but it's hard to appreciate that art in it's entirety when you can't play it fully. I rarely make more than 1 character and max them out or take them all the way through. I did that for FO3, but only to get the Good/Neutral/Evil achievements.

So don't get some of us that slam Bethesda wrong either, Skyrim is still a great game I'm sure. Why? Because we know what it can be when optimized correctly (see the Xbox version, and more so the PC version even before modders get their hands on it). It's just statements that made me want to get this game, like others, about the equal support and how it was optimized to be on par with it's counterparts on another platform were all put out there as hype but what most people experienced makes those statements false and it angers people because they fell they have been lied to. Could it be an honest mistake? Sure it could. However, whether it was hype or an honest mistake, it's intolerable either way because this company has had years now to work with the platform to get things right and when they claim that they have, they still show the same growing ineptitude.

Again, they made a terrific game and they won some awards for it (though if it was solely PS3 awards, they wouldn't have received jack-[censored]). As a consumer, you can only take so much before you say "no more". It starts to cross that line between ignorance which can be forgivable to a point, and arrogance which is never forgivable unless it is deserved arrogance.

I once had a "No Fear" t-shirt that said "Not Arrogant, Just Good" on it. If you really are "just good", you're not really arrogant, but Bethesda seems to maintain that status that they are that good, but on the PS3 they're not and it turns itself into arrogance.

^---This pretty much nails my thoughts on all of this. And in an alot more polite way than i can currently manage, as i've been choosing to look more than post for a bit now because i'd no doubt get myself banned..

[Budgie]

?Perhaps the problem isn't Skyrim, and instead its your PS3? I don't think you can blame Bethesda for defective hardware.

It's the PS3 dude. I mean look at the huge library of games available for it. None of those other games suffer what Skyrim has. Why is it only Skyrim, Fallout, Bethesda? Come on man!! Think !!

[Daddy Cool!]

Looks like we'll find out Monday - trailer for the 3rd DLC being released then.

[Yvonne]

Looks like we'll find out Monday - trailer for the 3rd DLC being released then.

Source? or hearsay?

[Steeeph]

My character is level 63 and I don't have too many problems with the game. Some patches fixed mine but you're right, I've seen some that are unplayable. The water freeze was also a pain and the player has to patch that themselves (not Bethesda)

I am a level 81 dark elf. But I am pretty particular about things getting messed up in the game. I don't dance on the tables to knock stuff on the floor, I don't shout inside, or even in the streets for that matter. I try not to dump items on the ground, but rather into people or chests. Perhaps that is why I've only had minor freezing issues. Recently it has started to lag a bit, especially when running outside when raining.

[glot]

Source? or hearsay?

Bethesda's Twitter - https://twitter.com/BGS_Devs/status/264445390592569344

[El Khatiri]

Bethesda's Twitter - https://twitter.com/BGS_Devs/status/264445390592569344

That armor looks cool... hopefully we'll all get to play it... Still would like to play it as a VL though...

[Luis Reyma]

This whole experience has driven me to the point where I'm expecting Monday's trailer to be "Check out this amazing new assassin mask for Corvo - coming to Dishonored on 12/12/12!"

But in reality, it will be Dragonborn, coming to XBox and PC on 12/12/12, with "more info to follow regarding release on other platforms."

[Nick Swan]

It's the PS3 dude. I mean look at the huge library of games available for it. None of those other games suffer what Skyrim has. Why is it only Skyrim, Fallout, Bethesda? Come on man!! Think !!

First off, I admire your daring ability to use so many exclaimation points, it sure adds alot to this discussion. I hope you can spare at least one of those exclaimation points, and in doing so, shove it up your....

well, let me respond another way that perhaps you might better understand...My PS3 version!!! of Skyrim on my!!!!! PS3 works great. Perhaps!!!! their is!! a particular model!!!! or setting within the PS3 that!!!!! is creating the problems!!! for those who keep running!!!! into issues. Better?!!

[Alycia Leann grace]

Bethesda's Twitter - https://twitter.com/BGS_Devs/status/264445390592569344

Thanks for the link. Hate to have to ask, but firmly in 'see it to believe it' mode when anything new related to Bethesda pops up.

[Darlene DIllow]

Thanks for the link. Hate to have to ask, but firmly in 'see it to believe it' mode when anything new related to Bethesda pops up.

Nope - I should have linked the first time. Even seeing it in my feed, I still didn't believe it (and still don't believe it will come to PS3... kinda).

[Susan Elizabeth]

First off, I admire your daring ability to use so many exclaimation points, it sure adds alot to this discussion. I hope you can spare at least one of those exclaimation points, and in doing so, shove it up your....

well, let me respond another way that perhaps you might better understand...My PS3 version!!! of Skyrim on my!!!!! PS3 works great. Perhaps!!!! their is!! a particular model!!!! or setting within the PS3 that!!!!! is creating the problems!!! for those who keep running!!!! into issues. Better?!!

Actually(and its one of the few things Bethesda has said during all of this that i believe), it is play-style that plays a big part on how the game runs. And after seeing all the accounts from different players, seems that simply means how much you do. Which tracks.

You for example only take characters up to lvl 35 then start again. Valid play-style choice, but you can't be giving the engine much to keep track of compared to ppl who are rocking at cap or closer-to-cap characters. And then there are other examples of what can go wrong, take me for instance.

Every character i made played like a dream. I had them at cap(81), mid lvl, even as low as 1(wanted to see how far i could go without lvling up). Every single one i made and i been playing from 11/11/11. I didn't start seeing problems until that damned 1.6/1.7 patch. Since i've loaded that patch, i've seen every glitch reported except backward flying dragons and water lock-ups; even a few that i hadn't seen.

So while dude maybe should not have yelled at you, maybe you can see why he did.

[carrie roche]

Actually(and its one of the few things Bethesda has said during all of this that i believe), it is play-style that plays a big part on how the game runs. And after seeing all the accounts from different players, seems that simply means how much you do. Which tracks.

You for example only take characters up to lvl 35 then start again. Valid play-style choice, but you can't be giving the engine much to keep track of compared to ppl who are rocking at cap or closer-to-cap characters. And then there are other examples of what can go wrong, take me for instance.

Every character i made played like a dream. I had them at cap(81), mid lvl, even as low as 1(wanted to see how far i could go without lvling up). Every single one i made and i been playing from 11/11/11. I didn't start seeing problems until that damned 1.6/1.7 patch. Since i've loaded that patch, i've seen every glitch reported except backward flying dragons and water lock-ups; even a few that i hadn't seen.

So while dude maybe should not have yelled at you, maybe you can see why he did.

I totaly see your point and what you say makes a lot of sense. I just don't think i deserved to be responded to like he did.

[Kat Ives]

Bethesda's Twitter - https://twitter.com/BGS_Devs/status/264445390592569344

More xbox and PC dlc!!!! Yes!!! Just what all ps3 owners need right now, more things to write about on the no dlc for ps3 thread. On the bright side it might help us get to thread #40.

[Ernesto Salinas]

Would've thought Bethesda would comment on the possibility of Hearthfire at least being released on PS3, or an update on Dawnguard for PS3 before announcing another DLC.

[Lady Shocka]

This whole thing hasn't really bothered me because I assume they will get it to work eventually. But if they release another DLC to the Xbox and PC, and we still have nothing I will be very pissed.