Weapons, Mods and Ammo Mega-Thread #7 : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:05 pm

Seconded, with bells on, I miss the FN FAL.

Good rifle. Heavy as hell, but good rifle.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:58 am

Good rifle. Heavy as hell, but good rifle.

The same weight as it's replacement the SA80, 5Kg. It just feels heavier as it is a proper long iron

It does feel like it weighs a ton when it has a night scope attached though.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:05 pm

Good rifle. Heavy as hell, but good rifle.

Is 7.62mm even a confirmed rifle round? I was pretty dissapointed when it wasn't in FO3.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:41 pm

I NEED the R91! Favorite weapon in FO3. Suppressed or a mod for a tighter spread, and hopefully a single shot conversion kit with a scope and i'll be set

I think the R91 should be back but it should have its own uniqueness to it for New Vegas, instead they should just have the http://www.calzaretta.com/scans/g3k.jpg style version of it I really just prefer a Polymer frame on the G3 Battle Rifles.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:17 am

Is 7.62mm even a confirmed rifle round? I was pretty dissapointed when it wasn't in FO3.

.308 Winchester is the commercially available equivalent of 7.62x51mm NATO. There are minor differences, like brass thickness, but any weapon that chambers 7.62mmNATO will fire .308.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:49 pm

.308 Winchester is the commercially available equivalent of 7.62x51mm NATO. There are minor differences, like brass thickness, but any weapon that chambers 7.62mmNATO will fire .308.

Ok, sounds good. The R91 should have been chambered in .308 in FO3. I don't think it'd be too lore-breaking if it is in New Vegas.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:07 am

Ok, sounds good. The R91 should have been chambered in .308 in FO3. I don't think it'd be too lore-breaking if it is in New Vegas.

We've kinda knocked that idea around abit and come to the conclusion that's it's not outside the realm of possabilities.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:10 am

I remember this coming up awhile back right before I took a break from the forums, but has there been any word on holsters? I could never quite get used to my pistol magically floating 4 inches of my hip or back. Also, something that bothered me was my minigun/gatling laser dissapearing right out of my hands as I holstered it.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:27 pm

I remember this coming up awhile back right before I took a break from the forums, but has there been any word on holsters? I could never quite get used to my pistol magically floating 4 inches of my hip or back. Also, something that bothered me was my minigun/gatling laser dissapearing right out of my hands as I holstered it.

I doubt there will holsters or anything of that sort in New Vegas with the limitations of the Gamebryo engine and all that jazz, I'd say that is something we may see in Fallout games to come but not in this one unfortunately. :tops:

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:14 pm

Sword sheaths were done in Oblivion rather easily. It's perplexing how holsters aren't in Fallout.

Although, I wonder... would FO3 read the holster properly if the NIF hierarchy were structured in a manner similar to the scabbards in Oblivion?

It's definitely not a limitation of the Gamebryo engine. http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8751

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:27 am

I doubt there will holsters or anything of that sort in New Vegas with the limitations of the Gamebryo engine and all that jazz, I'd say that is something we may see in Fallout games to come but not in this one unfortunately. :tops:

As Madcat said, they did it in Oblivion, can't be too hard to do with the current engine, but then again I've never worked with the engine and have minimal knowledge of modding and what not. Well, it definatelly won't be in New Vegas, hopefully Fallout 4.

Wouldn't it just require a redone holstering animation and then just the holster mesh with reworked skins for different types of guns? For rifles all we need is a sling that fits over each outfit like in RDR.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:16 am

As Madcat said, they did it in Oblivion, can't be too hard to do with the current engine, but then again I've never worked with the engine and have minimal knowledge of modding and what not. Well, it definatelly won't be in New Vegas, hopefully Fallout 4.

I didn't know that I really couldn't stand Oblivion to be honest, I think someone also said it had something to do with the Hotkey system in Fallout 3 although the reasoning behind that escapes me at the moment

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:48 pm

I didn't know that I really couldn't stand Oblivion to be honest, I think someone also said it had something to do with the Hotkey system in Fallout 3 although the reasoning behind that escapes me at the moment

Hotkey? That makes absolutely no sense. Well, anywho, you should give Oblivion another try, it is really interesting once you get a couple hours in. I have a couple hundred hours on it.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:33 am

Ok, sounds good. The R91 should have been chambered in .308 in FO3. I don't think it'd be too lore-breaking if it is in New Vegas.

If they re-added it in .308 they could just explain it the same way that there is a AR-10 and AR-15

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:20 pm

If they re-added it in .308 they could just explain it the same way that there is a AR-10 and AR-15

And how are they explaining that?

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:59 pm

And how are they explaining that?

The AR-15 was developed to be a lighter version of the AR-10. The R-91 could just be the lighter version of lets say the R-81. Also there were very few AR-10s made compared to the AR-15 which would help explain why it wasn't on the east coast.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:44 am

The AR-15 was developed to be a lighter version of the AR-10. The R-91 could just be the lighter version of lets say the R-81.

Yes, but there has already been a R91 and it was chambered in 5.56mm, while we are talking about a R91 chambered in .308 (7.62x51mm). Which would make it a bigger, heavier gun. Unless we just introduce a R99 that was designed to be the battle rifle version on the R91...

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:27 pm

Yes, but there has already been a R91 and it was chambered in 5.56mm, while we are talking about a R91 chambered in .308 (7.62x51mm). Which would make it a bigger, heavier gun. Unless we just introduce a R99 that was designed to be the battle rifle version on the R91...

Or they can just keep it the same avoiding all realism......can you say ret-con?

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:05 pm

Honestly it already looks like a gun chambered in .308 and the AR-10 besides the usually straight magazine (which the R91 has) looks almost identical to the AR-15. I think you would just need to change the weight and give it a new skin and you would be g2g.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:30 pm

Honestly it already looks like a gun chambered in .308 and the AR-10 besides the usually straight magazine (which the R91 has) looks almost identical to the AR-15. I think you would just need to change the weight and give it a new skin and you would be g2g.

It was modeled after a gun chambered in 7.62, so thats probably why

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:36 am

It was modeled after a gun chambered in 7.62, so thats probably why

I know and that helps my case even more!
The defense now rests

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:21 am

The thing I don't get is why there are AR-10 derived weapons. The R series of guns succeeded the M series. Shouldn't we be seeing more Rs? R91, R90...?

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:52 pm

I figure that the NCR found plans for the M series and found them easier to produce than the R series or they found a large mothball facility.

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:03 am

The thing I don't get is why there are AR-10 derived weapons. The R series of guns succeeded the M series. Shouldn't we be seeing more Rs? R91, R90...?

I noticed that earlier while browsing wiki. It is quite odd, I guess all the latest edition R weapons were shipped upto the battlefronts and the coast. Which left a bunch of old M series were left, but that brings another problem why are they using some off the first made? Why were they using actual vintage 1950's M series weapons instead of some of the last to be introduced before the R series?

» Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:51 am

The thing I don't get is why there are AR-10 derived weapons. The R series of guns succeeded the M series. Shouldn't we be seeing more Rs? R91, R90...?

Historically, militaries usually don't just throw out their old weapons when introducing new ones. They rotate down to national guard, civil guard or police use. The AR series rifles, using the M series designation, when replaced by the R seres weapons would have been still in use for some time. Also, often times weapons that are still serviceable will be mothballed for future use. You can go to the CMP today and buy surplus WWII M1s 65 years after they were removed from service. You can buy surplus M1917s that were removed from service after WWI, almost 100 years ago. I remember seeing Indian Police In Munbai toting around old Lee-Enfields just a few years ago. So that accounts for why we are seeing M sereis weapons. As for more R series weapons, maybe the R91 was the first? OK. Maybe not. It appears the R series replaced the M series in the early 21st century. Well that leave the door open for quite a few new weapons then, doesn't it?