A were creature expansionDLC

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:07 pm

I kind of think (concerning the werebear thing) they should have been the werecreature of choice for Skyrim to begin with. We had werewolves in Bloodmoon and Skyrim (lore-wise) is home to the werebears.

The technical aspects of difference between wolf and bear forms is a tough one to divide, hypothetically. By making werebears slower I think it would make things difficult combat-wise, even if they had extra health. I don't have solid ideas on-hand, but I think they could be fleshed out to be different from werewolves, but also retain the shapeshifter qualities folks have come to love (or loathe).

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:13 pm

not sure if giving them Roar is such a good idea, thats more magic relited

Why not, us werewolves have howls so it makes sense that a werebear would have a set of roars that mirror the werewolves howls.

In the canon TES book "The Infernal City" Werewolves and at least one Werebear did work together under Hircine during one of his hunts. Hircine has no control over Werebeast, they are individuals and only those that wish to serve him. Kodlak of the Companions and the rouge Wereboar from Daggerfall demonstrate their free will. They are not just animals, they are people.

I agree that Hircine doesn't have total and utter control over the Lycanthrops but he does influence them and I would imagine that he would be able to at least talk them into doing what he wanted, that is unless you will power was strong enough to resist his charm.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:20 pm

I kind of think (concerning the werebear thing) they should have been the werecreature of choice for Skyrim to begin with. We had werewolves in Bloodmoon and Skyrim (lore-wise) is home to the werebears.

The technical aspects of difference between wolf and bear forms is a tough one to divide, hypothetically. By making werebears slower I think it would make things difficult combat-wise, even if they had extra health. I don't have solid ideas on-hand, but I think they could be fleshed out to be different from werewolves, but also retain the shapeshifter qualities folks have come to love (or loathe).

I wouldn't make them too sluggish but they should be a little bit slower then werewolves but twice as strong, they should move just as fast as the bears in game do which isn't too fast and not too slow.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:11 am

I kind of think (concerning the werebear thing) they should have been the werecreature of choice for Skyrim to begin with. We had werewolves in Bloodmoon and Skyrim (lore-wise) is home to the werebears.

The technical aspects of difference between wolf and bear forms is a tough one to divide, hypothetically. By making werebears slower I think it would make things difficult combat-wise, even if they had extra health. I don't have solid ideas on-hand, but I think they could be fleshed out to be different from werewolves, but also retain the shapeshifter qualities folks have come to love (or loathe).

Well,skyrim has both but they have more werebears.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:04 am

I kind of think (concerning the werebear thing) they should have been the werecreature of choice for Skyrim to begin with. We had werewolves in Bloodmoon and Skyrim (lore-wise) is home to the werebears.

The technical aspects of difference between wolf and bear forms is a tough one to divide, hypothetically. By making werebears slower I think it would make things difficult combat-wise, even if they had extra health. I don't have solid ideas on-hand, but I think they could be fleshed out to be different from werewolves, but also retain the shapeshifter qualities folks have come to love (or loathe).

I agree with the first part, but the second Werebears are going to have to be slower (not slug slow) to even out there power or else it would make the game unbalanced.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:47 pm

I see the point. Still, it would be nice to have aspects for the werebear that differentiate between the two species. If the werebear was slower it could offset the hightened armor and/or health. However, I dislike slow combat so I'd be skeptical of playing one unless properly balanced

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:31 am

I see the point. Still, it would be nice to have aspects for the werebear that differentiate between the two species. If the werebear was slower it could offset the hightened armor and/or health. However, I dislike slow combat so I'd be skeptical of playing one unless properly balanced

You would have to adopt an " ambush " tactic, which is what bears are "ambush predators ". Archers would be a pain in the butt but that's where the extra health comes in, you would be able to take at least twice the amount of damage that a werewolf can take.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:59 pm

You would have to adopt an " ambush " tactic, which is what bears are "ambush predators ". Archers would be a pain in the butt but that's where the extra health comes in, you would be able to take at least twice the amount of damage that a werewolf can take.

What's funny is that in real life bears aren't much slower than wolves. I think the average speed for Brown bears is like 35mph and wolves are like 40mph, but wolves are more agile and have amazing stamina which allows them to chase prey for miles. To be honest, werebears will probably be as fast or faster than the PC but slower than werewolves.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:20 pm

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:13 pm

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:59 pm

but making it like unrelenting force? that's magic

I guess you could consider summoning spectral werewolves sort of magical too.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:27 pm

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:46 pm

Toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon TOOOOOOONNNNNNN

But they are basically cartoons that we control You do know the more you get upset the more I'm going to bug you about it right

Cartoons? Video-game character and cartoons do not mix. There is a difference, but I'll let you bask in your illusion. Don't worry, I'll find a way to get rid of you like I got rid of that Werewolf_Fan.

Why not, us werewolves . . .

Us werewolves? Huh?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:26 pm

Cartoons? Video-game character and cartoons do not mix. There is a difference, but I'll let you bask in your illusion. Don't worry, I'll find a way to get rid of you like I got rid of that Werewolf_Fan.

Us werewolves? Huh?

SSSSHHHHHH!!!! You keep telling everyone your plan! And yes hooray for no werewolf_fan188, he offended me.

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:00 am

SSSSHHHHHH!!!! You keep telling everyone your plan! And yes hooray for no werewolf_fan188, he offended me.

What did happen that guy? Is he banned?

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:33 am

What did happen that guy? Is he banned?

We assume he is, he hasn't been on since July 19. So...

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:14 pm

Cartoons? Video-game character and cartoons do not mix. There is a difference, but I'll let you bask in your illusion. Don't worry, I'll find a way to get rid of you like I got rid of that Werewolf_Fan.

Us werewolves? Huh?

No you wont, there's nothing you could do that's going to get me to say or do something that will get me in trouble I'm a fairly cool headed fella, as for the my illusion..... They are basically cartoons, what else are they actors?
What do you mean " Us werewolves huh ?" ??

SSSSHHHHHH!!!! You keep telling everyone your plan! And yes hooray for no werewolf_fan188, he offended me.

I don't think I had the pleasure of meeting him, was he a major dike or something?

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:53 am

We assume he is, he hasn't been on since July 19. So...

That explains why I haven't seen any crazy talk of lore-breaking werewolves lately.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:05 pm

» Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:04 am

That explains why I haven't seen any crazy talk of lore-breaking werewolves lately.

Yes. I still can't tell if he was serious about that or if he was trolling?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:04 pm

No you wont, there's nothing you could do that's going to get me to say or do something that will get me in trouble I'm a fairly cool headed fella, as for the my illusion..... They are basically cartoons, what else are they actors?
What do you mean " Us werewolves huh ?" ??



I don't think I had the pleasure of meeting him, was he a major dike or something?

He liked to make comments that made no sense at all... Just a....a... Pest

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:15 pm

SSSSHHHHHH!!!! You keep telling everyone your plan! And yes hooray for no werewolf_fan188, he offended me.

I take pride in the accompishments.

What did happen that guy? Is he banned?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic

No you wont, there's nothing you could do that's going to get me to say or do something that will get me in trouble I'm a fairly cool headed fella, as for the my illusion..... They are basically cartoons, what else are they actors?
What do you mean " Us werewolves huh ?" ??
I don't think I had the pleasure of meeting him, was he a major dike or something?

You said, "us werewolves", so you believe yourself a werewolf?

Also, http://www.mascotdesign.com/_dev/images/famous-cartoon-character-mickey-mouse.png and http://media.bestofmicro.com/Skyrim-performance-Benchmark,7-X-315213-13.jpg are different. The word "character" would be a fine substitute for "toon", which makes it sound like we are playing My Little Pony.

On topic: Anyone up for a Hunting Grounds DLC?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:01 pm

Yes. I still can't tell if he was serious about that or if he was trolling?

I want to go with troll..but something is telling me he was being serious.

He liked to make comments that made no sense at all... Just a....a... Pest

Werebears = sneaks
Werewolves = tanks
Oh we should also be able to control our werewolf transformations like the Vamp lords do.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:54 pm

Be glad you didn't he was annoying, and just a troll.

He liked to make comments that made no sense at all... Just a....a... Pest

Oh well I guess I missed out on the fun of messing with him then, but really the best course of action when dealing with a troll or a pest is to ignore em.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:34 pm

I take pride in the accompishments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic
On topic: Anyone up for a Hunting Grounds DLC?

As do I, but you shouldn't tell everyone your plan.
And more likehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvTgLTrTfqE
On topic: Yes I am up for that, I have wanted this type of DLC for a long time.

I want to go with troll..but something is telling me he was being serious.
Werebears = sneaks
Werewolves = tanks
Oh we should also be able to control our werewolf transformations like the Vamp lords do.

I feel like he was being serious, but then trolled about it, I don't know he was a mystery, but made no sense at all.