It does.

With 80% spell absorption or 70% magic resistance good luck having any effective offensive with magic. The ABSOLUTE FACT IS. The VL can only defend from physical attacks by running which isn't always an option. Magical defenses are easy to come by even transformed.

What if there is no water, what if we just go behind a tree so you can't target us with your ability without coming back onto land. What if the sun is up nerfing your ability to regenerate. I runaway because my offensive powers are useless due to magic defenses is called retreating.

A vampire lord can't always choose to fight near water or even at night, but either character can always choose what perks they have, what stone is active etc.

He did 6 volkihar vampire (not even the VL) vs 50 werewolves and the vampires won both times

And thats how Harkon got his pelt. Found a stupid weak WW, and run of like chicken to the nearest lake. Pathetic

Not really, I finished both the VL perk tree and the werewolf perk tree and I'm still much more powerful in werewolf form then VL form. But I have had a LOT more practice with my werewolf then I have had with my VL.

Before perk tree, and those were AI.

Its 5 actually lol.

Those are scaled AI werewolves not player werewolves, and that was before the perk tree and extra goodies for us werewolves.

I did one as a mage VL, and the rest as a warrior Werewolf. Werewolf is superior. VL has too many weaknesses for me.

As I said before the werewolf can cover a gap of 50 ft in 4.5 seconds. Vampire can only fire its left hand spell once every two seconds. Werewolf with two summons leaves the VL with two paralyzed wolves and stagger locked to death.

AI because they programed that way. Try true live pvp. I can organise a match beetween Galliot and who ever he fought in the bible. And Galiot would always win. Because thats the nature of AI not using their AI brain

There's still a chance something would work.

And if the battle has gone on to the point where the sun is up, the smartest thing to do would be to revert back to human form and use the fully realized Dovahkiin powers, but that might be cheating.

If reverting is cheating/impossible... I'd just retreat. No shame in that. Or, I'd use the idiot townsfolk or nearby creatures as meat shields. Strength is not just physical power. [Insert wise proverb here.]

Edit: it should also be remembered that when people become Vampire Lords, they cease to be humans and the Vampire Lord form is their true form.

Too many IF's and relying on things that may or may not be there. Not a strong argument. WW's are strong and fast no matter what. Day or Night. Stamina is basically infinite. We dont need to rely on environment. And u better hope its night, otherwise magicka's gonna be [censored]. I sure dont have a lot of magicka for, u so by all means, drain away. 1 on 1, ur done.

Slim chance trying to utilize which has a bigger chance of gwtting you killed.
WE speak about WW and VL, not dovahking powers.
Retreat? You can't escape WW as VL how the hell do you do it in reverted form.
You mean the same villagers that also want to kill you? WW simply throws them around.
No it's not. They become vampires. They simply can change into VL form at will

Take out the insanely overpowered Grip and I'd give it to the werewolf.

Even with it the WW has enough power to beat VL into the ground

They can have it. They can only grip 1, then the other two are all over 'em. Werewolf summons are OP.

Grip has high cost and low throw and choke damage unless its on a cliff. Also the werewolf summons would stagger the VL forcing him to drop the wolf he was holding.

If the WW gets the jump, then prob the WW. If not? the VL has so many tools up his disposal to keep the WW away. Paralyze, Bats, Grasp. It's not a fair match, the Vamp will win.

Ugg, read previous posts. Not the case at all. Play as both, THEN talk.

Double werewolf spirits...that is all.

The only way you will find out is if Hircine and Molag Bal fight each other for they are the original vampires and werewolves.

Dude, shut up. You always say dumb [censored]. They were not werewolves or vampires. They are the source of it. They're daedra lords. They cant die even if they were the original vamp and WW's. Which they're not. The original vamp was a nede woman who Molag Bal [censored] the [censored] out of.

AI is more fairer than players, player controlled werewolves and vampires can cheat, use cheap tactics, spam knockdown moves or ragdoll attacks/running attacks. AI does not and can't do that, it is a true fight when it is AI as it relies on the natural AI moves of each species rather the strategic mind of a player can use their mind to do all sorts of things to help them.

If anyone wants to watch that fight, here is the link to the youtube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lO0DLBDC0E

As a vampire lord I'm gonna fly out over a lake and then I can't lose.