Ironically I think it's probably bigotry. There's a reason the only movies you see about German history revolve around a single theme.

I do think it's funny that imperials are thought to be better in this regard. The ones who think their poo smells sweeter than everyone else and they get to rule the world.

Did you play the game... at all?

Umm, yes? So you don't see the similarity with the Ghetto thing? I'm just speculating about Ulfric being a Hitler equilvelent, there is nothing stopping him if he gets the power he wants. I actually expect him to be a Thalmor sleeper agent.

It also resemble the situation the african-american people used to be in only a 100 years ago in America. Racism doesn't mean Nazi. Racial extermination is what seperated the Nazis from other racist groups. I am under the impression that you think Nazi because the Nords happens to be whilte and blond is common haircolor for them. The Dunmer also think they are superior, and so does the Altmer.

Seriously misinformed and prejudiced speculation on both counts.

I actually wonder if the writers are surprised that people take such a surface view and don't bother to look farther. Guess they expected people to apply some critical thinking to the story. Or they forgot that people who aren't TES players won't know they have to read game books and look outside the cutscenes for the full story, since most games don't require you to do that.

Also- the N word is a no-no on the forum. Mods are going to intervene if that goes farther. This is a fantasy race and a fantasy game, with no straight real-world equivalents.

Well of course they do, they are elves after all. Look at the Altmer's common name: "High Elf", I would surely expect them to act like that. Altmer are more Nazi I admit. Still after this game, I don't know if I could ever look at Nords the same again. I never really liked them in Oblivion or Morrowind.

Ulfric Stormcloak is a xenophobic Nord supremistcist. He thinks that way because he feels betrayed about the white gold concordant. Ulfric is good speaker, so he easily convinced his supporters to think like he does. He spent time being tortured in a Thalmor prison, he got released and started the Stormcloaks. Thalmor have him listed as a asset in their Dossier. It wouldn't surprise me if he was actually a sleeper agent. I've read the lore, it does not change my opinions on him, he treats my favorite races like crap so I talk about him like the crap he is. Seems like the majority of TES players hate him.

And Cyrodiil belongs to the Ayleid?

I don't remember Ulfric ever commenting on race at all.

And what do you think a Thalmor dossier on the Empire would say?

Down with mankind! Return tamriel to the elves(With their protohuman servants)!

Tamriel belongs to the Altmer since they are descendents of the first settlers(Aldmer).

It also states they don't want a Stormcloak victory. I believe thas alone should remove the possibilty of him beeing a sleeper agent. And they say he doesn't respond to indirect contact. In other words he doesn't know they see him as an asset.

Its hardly similar to what the Nazis did to the Jews. It doesn't even compare to what Jews had to endure in most of Christian Europe during the Middle Ages or Dunmer treatment of other races in the 3E. Not all Nords are perfect, name a race that is.

That does not mean he can't be. For what we know those dossier could be placed on purpose by the Thalmor for the Dragonborn to find. Also maybe not all Thalmor would know this, to help keep the secret. You got to admit it would be a pretty big twist to the story.

Altmer.

And before someone says 'Imperials', let me remind them of the situation in Leyawiin at the turn of the Era.

Post even one statement of Ulfric's that is racist. Go ahead, we'll wait.

Asset =/ agent. I guess you skipped over the parts about him being uncooperative.

Also, your timeline is a bit messed up. He was imprisoned by the imperials after the Markarth Incident. The rebellion started after that.

Nobody who looks like they escaped from a Simpsons episode could be perfect.

I heard Tullius is just putting on a show. He's actually completely in line with the Thalmor and is actively trying to bring about the downfall of mankind and any non-altmer.

He's Xenophobic. He's mistrusting of them. His actions show bias towards nords and racism towards anyone else. No I never skipped over the parts, I just like to believe it since it would be one hell of a twist. I know about the Markath incident, I wasn't posting the timeline in a specific order. I just liked to mention his time in the Thalmor prison. God only knows what they were doing to his mind in there. About the Markath thing, so killing innocent breton women and children is good?

So says an imperial propaganda rag, trying to scapegoat him so they can kiss up to the Thalmor over the incident.

Also, name me a race in Tamriel which isn't xenophobic. If this is your reasoning, you must really hate all the other races.

Nords are my favourite race in tes! And i personally, support Stormcloaks, because Skyrim should belong to Nords and be ruled by themselves. Although there should be no place for racism, and all races are welcome as far as they ready to live in peace and respect Nords, their customs etc.

That dossier says he is uncooperative. Otoh Tullius is VERY cooperative. See Imperial Missive. The empire is a thrall to the Thalmor.

_{1) Nords and Altmers are taller then all other races that makes them look "superior and better then others" - but from other hand they are drunktards and rude people.So i think some people who play nords want to play "Superior race that are better then others" something like "Im Nord im best" "Skyrim Belongs to the Nords" "Skyrim for nords" etc} And Altmers are racists too - 90% evil npcs in Oblivion was altmers

2) Vikings actually was smallest/shortest people in Europe 200-700 years ago,people in nordic countrys tall only now. Nordic countrys Norway,Denmark,Iceland is NOT COLD at all they have gulfstream they have +10C at winter time, for example some russian citys have -60 -70C During winter and -30C during autamm

3) Nords is fictional race from another universe, they are not vikings from Europe. The only viking stuff they have is helmets with horns. And Shor/Nifelheim/Sovngarde names, even Skyrim citys doesnt sound like viking city names i.e Uppsala,Oslo,Reikjakvik etc

Nicest people in Tamriel is probably wood elves,khajits,and bretons. And breton/imperial/wood elf/ females have better faces then nord ones.

Not really, Skyrim belong to evryone.Saying "Skyrim belongs to the Nords" its like saying "Morrowind belongs to the orcs" Imperialism svcks but Stormcloaks racism arent much better.

Wow, can't believe what this turned into...

Can we go back to point of the thread and stop using Nazi anologies, they're at best incorrect and at worse insulting to those who died, not only Jews. As for the situation with Snow Elves imo it resembles more what American Indians went through, and as we not heard their part of story, we only the word of some historian --- and it's been proven time and time again, history is written by the victors.

No, they were of average height, but the better fed ones (more important or wealthier people with better diets) did get taller than the average European of the day.