i don't think i technically qualify as a racist since my point was whether or not they should even BE a race, not whether i find them inferior/superior to other races. i know that's a bit abstract, but i just think the argonians and khajiit would be more comfortable in a more "fitting" atmosphere, like a 1950's sci-fi directed by ed wood.

No. There would be alot of beurocratic nonsense.

Or alot of people on a forum arguing. . . Oh wait. . .

Never before have I been so enticed by the prospect of the next game being set in Black Marsh. But now it must happen. EDIT: Are there even 50 Argonians and Khajiit IN Skyrim?

"ALRIGHT! ALRIGHT! CALM THE [censored] DOWN!" *everybody stops* "Voice of the Emperor, [censored]es! IMPERIALS FOR ETERNITY!" *laser beams*

I thought it would have been a 150 years or so because the explosion happened before The Infernal City and after the Oblivion Crisis.

Yes there could be some problems but the Dunmer can adapt to an ash wasteland. They even lasted in one with the spreading blight.

The Dunmer did not all go to Windhelm lol. They seem to be doing pretty fine elsewhere. The Dunmer in the grey quarter are being impoverished and held down by the stagnation of Ulfric's racism to anything and everything non-Nord. Really hard to like that guy...

I would say the Dunmer are NOWHERE even close to the strength they had right before the end of the 3rd Era. I do believe the Dunmer have some kind of of power structure though and there is enough 'evidence' (You know how TES is) to support it being that way as opposed to them being completely homeless and buggered. The Dunmer act like a people that still have a homeland to go back to. Hell in the beginning the Imperial Hadvar(?) says they will send your bones back to Morrowind as if it is no real big deal. IMO Morrowind is still a part of the Empire. Just in a very loose way. The only explanation for the remains of an individual being arranged to go back to their homeland is if that homeland is somewhere that can be reached. So either the empire still has some modicum of control over Morrowind or Morrowind is its own nation. But I am leaping to all kinds of conclusions there.

Btw you call the Dunmer racist but how do you feel about the Nords? They seem worse to me than the Dunmer ever did in Morrowind lol(excluding slavery) . A very large majority of the Nords are incredibly racist. Kind of insulting to me in some ways as I liked the Nords lol.

Lesson of the day for me? Most of the races in TES are racist to one group or another. The Argonian Dockworkers in Windhelm are even racist lol and I would have considered them the least racist at first glance.

Well the Nazis didn't think there should be any jews. That's why they killed them. They wanted everyone to be of the Aryan race. Does that make them not racist?

Heh, those ugly grey-skins would even have some camouflage. They'd need to crawl around on their bellies in the ashes if they want to attempt to rebuild their civilization.

OP declared genocide just because he doesn't like how they look. Winner.

Sounds like a certain German from the 1930s with a distinctive mustache and hatred for one particular religion. Wonder who that could be?

He wasn't German, he was Austrian, he didn't hate one particular relgion, he hated most or all religions.

Nords are nowhere near as racist as the Dunmer.

When is giving refugees jobs, homes, and walls as bad as persecuting a race to brutal slavery for CENTURIES. The Dunmer deserved everything terrible that happened to them for what they did to the Argonians. No, they deserved WORSE. But the Nords were kind enough to take pity on them.

That's not enough for them, though.

And WHEN is Ulfric keeping them down? Last I checked, they had jobs and homes. They best homes available, actually (besides Hjerim). What, is Ulfric going to kick out the Nords that have been living in Windhelm for generations out to give some refugees better homes?

Ulfric is a manipulative, lying, cheating, treacherous, greedy, selfish, back-stabbing, charismatic, evil, arrogant, stupid, and devious man, but he's given the Dunmer MANY things most refugees could barely dream of having. He values the natives that have lived in Skyrim for generations more than the newcomers, which isn't something to blame him for.

Anyways, I know the Dunmer could go back, and I don't see why they don't. It didn't cost them very much to come to Skyrim, considering they were penniless and running from a volcanic explosion. Maybe they could hope that karma would be generous and gives them another break, so they can demand that they be given more. Or they could crawl under a rock and rot their racist, demanding asses off. Either way works for me.

Like how Argonians crawl threw sludge abd muck in Argonia.

oh jsut think about the altmer then

"ayayayayayayayayayay" *boom* damn suicide bombers

Whoops, sorry about the German part. And he was pro-Catholic (he was particularly unhappy when the Pope refused to endorse killing Jews).

The more you know, the more you know. And knowing is half the battle.

Come on guys, how did we get from lizard and cat men to 1930's and hitler's mustache?

Also THANK YOU for the link to The Internal City snippet, gonna have to get that book now!

you are welcome

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really, you're going to compare me to a nazi? you would besmirch my good, anonymous, name because i happen to disagree with a design choice within the GAME!? i think you misunderstand. i'm not roleplaying with you. i was simply expressing my opinion on some of the characters, namely the two most ridiculous ones. jeez. someone get that khajiit a litter-box before he [censored] himself.

Now that you mention it, I'm going to edit chewbacca, yoda, and all the aliens out of Star Wars. I'm also going to edit out Gollum from Lord of the Rings, he just looks too weird.

See, friends, this is why we can't have nice things.

WHY DO YOU INSIST ON MAKING IT HARD FOR US TO HAVE NICE THINGS? ;-;

This thread is crazy....

Also just for record, anyone wonder how crappy it would be to still be fighting the Daedra inside Oblivion when Dagon's Lieutenants shut the gate?

"Game over man, game over."