Argonians and Khajiit: Lizard

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:47 am

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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:03 pm

Also just for record, anyone wonder how crappy it would be to still be fighting the Daedra inside Oblivion when Dagon's Lieutenants shut the gate?

"Game over man, game over."

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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:12 pm

Also just for record, anyone wonder how crappy it would be to still be fighting the Daedra inside Oblivion when Dagon's Lieutenants shut the gate?

"Game over man, game over."

Well, looking at how the gates are closed, I think it'd be how the CoC exits. Taking the sigil stone shuts the whole [censored] down, and teleports any non-Daedra back to the gates spot on Nirn.

So, the Dremora would [censored] themselves, close the gate, and the Argonians would plop back where the gate was, and then have an awesome party because they're awesome.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:06 am

Nords are nowhere near as racist as the Dunmer.

When is giving refugees jobs, homes, and walls as bad as persecuting a race to brutal slavery for CENTURIES. The Dunmer deserved everything terrible that happened to them for what they did to the Argonians. No, they deserved WORSE. But the Nords were kind enough to take pity on them.

That's not enough for them, though.

And WHEN is Ulfric keeping them down? Last I checked, they had jobs and homes. They best homes available, actually (besides Hjerim). What, is Ulfric going to kick out the Nords that have been living in Windhelm for generations out to give some refugees better homes?

Ulfric is a manipulative, lying, cheating, treacherous, greedy, selfish, back-stabbing, charismatic, evil, arrogant, stupid, and devious man, but he's given the Dunmer MANY things most refugees could barely dream of having. He values the natives that have lived in Skyrim for generations more than the newcomers, which isn't something to blame him for.

Anyways, I know the Dunmer could go back, and I don't see why they don't. It didn't cost them very much to come to Skyrim, considering they were penniless and running from a volcanic explosion. Maybe they could hope that karma would be generous and gives them another break, so they can demand that they be given more. Or they could crawl under a rock and rot their racist, demanding asses off. Either way works for me.
Of course the Nords are not nowhere as racist as the Dunmer. But the various dialogues from a plethora of different NPCs make it seem as if the the greater majority of the Nords by far are racist than the Dunmer of Morrowind. If we go by dialogue.

You obviously have a bigotry problem with the Dunmer. Not every Dunmer was a slaver. Not every Dunmer approved of slavery. Not every Dunmer had a slave. In fact most didn't. You would condemn the actions of some and punish everyone like them? The Dunmer deserved nothing like what they got. They had just released the slaves by fighting a brutal civil war amongst themselves before the events of Oblivion. You are completely unjustified in your accusations.

Ulfric never allowed the Dunmer in. The Jarls before him did. According to the conversations of NPCs in Windhelm, the Grey Quarter used to be a much better place before Ulfric. Ulfric is mentioned refusing to send soldiers to the aid of any race not Nord. The example used was bandits attacking refugees in his hold. If they only attacked non Nords Ulfric would do nothing. If they attacked Nords he would do something. Ulfric IS holding the Dunmer in the Grey Quarter down. Seriously, take a walk through there and chat up the NPCs. Is is quite sickening. At least the Dunmer hated everyone, including themselves.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:37 pm

Well, looking at how the gates are closed, I think it'd be how the CoC exits. Taking the sigil stone shuts the whole [censored] down, and teleports any non-Daedra back to the gates spot on Nirn.

So, the Dremora would [censored] themselves, close the gate, and the Argonians would plop back where the gate was, and then have an awesome party because they're awesome.

Oh right, forgot about that.. Well epic ending to battle is epic, considering hundreds of Argonians were probably mid swing, or blocking an attack when they just warped back to Nirn. Many "Deer in the head lights," looks for the first 5 seconds I imagine.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:33 am

This thread is crazy....
:lol:
It was crazy from post #1
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:34 pm

Why is someone's personal problem turning into lore discussion?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:50 pm

Why is someone's personal problem turning into lore discussion?

Internet Rule #71:

The Internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:07 am

Now that you mention it, I'm going to edit chewbacca, yoda, and all the aliens out of Star Wars. I'm also going to edit out Gollum from Lord of the Rings, he just looks too weird.
That would fix the strangeness there for sure. :biggrin:
This thread is crazy....
Its certainly amusing, we are going way back to the 1930s then talking about science fiction, all on a fantasy games forums.
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Those are great.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:20 pm

Of course the Nords are not nowhere as racist as the Dunmer. But the various dialogues from a plethora of different NPCs make it seem as if the the greater majority of the Nords by far are racist than the Dunmer of Morrowind. If we go by dialogue.

You obviously have a bigotry problem with the Dunmer. Not every Dunmer was a slaver. Not every Dunmer approved of slavery. Not every Dunmer had a slave. In fact most didn't. You would condemn the actions of some and punish everyone like them? The Dunmer deserved nothing like what they got. They had just released the slaves by fighting a brutal civil war amongst themselves before the events of Oblivion. You are completely unjustified in your accusations.

Ulfric never allowed the Dunmer in. The Jarls before him did. According to the conversations of NPCs in Windhelm, the Grey Quarter used to be a much better place before Ulfric. Ulfric is mentioned refusing to send soldiers to the aid of any race not Nord. The example used was bandits attacking refugees in his hold. If they only attacked non Nords Ulfric would do nothing. If they attacked Nords he would do something. Ulfric IS holding the Dunmer in the Grey Quarter down. Seriously, take a walk through there and chat up the NPCs. Is is quite sickening. At least the Dunmer hated everyone, including themselves.
the nords seem less concerned in any "race war" and more concerned in preserving a homogenized land. very scandinavian.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:30 am

Internet Rule #71:

The Internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS.
That sums it up perfectly.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:11 am

really, you're going to compare me to a nazi? you would besmirch my good, anonymous, name because i happen to disagree with a design choice within the GAME!? i think you misunderstand. i'm not roleplaying with you. i was simply expressing my opinion on some of the characters, namely the two most ridiculous ones. jeez. someone get that khajiit a litter-box before he [censored] himself.
You want to kill an entire race(s) because you don't like the way they look... how is this not an appropriate anology? There is nothing ridiculous about Khajiit and Argonians, they are an important part of the world of TES, perhaps you need to look beyond the human provinces to see the world is not a carbon copy if Lord of the Rings.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:15 am

Of course the Nords are not nowhere as racist as the Dunmer. But the various dialogues from a plethora of different NPCs make it seem as if the the greater majority of the Nords by far are racist than the Dunmer of Morrowind. If we go by dialogue.

You obviously have a bigotry problem with the Dunmer. Not every Dunmer was a slaver. Not every Dunmer approved of slavery. Not every Dunmer had a slave. In fact most didn't. You would condemn the actions of some and punish everyone like them? The Dunmer deserved nothing like what they got. They had just released the slaves by fighting a brutal civil war amongst themselves before the events of Oblivion. You are completely unjustified in your accusations.

Ulfric never allowed the Dunmer in. The Jarls before him did. According to the conversations of NPCs in Windhelm, the Grey Quarter used to be a much better place before Ulfric. Ulfric is mentioned refusing to send soldiers to the aid of any race not Nord. The example used was bandits attacking refugees in his hold. If they only attacked non Nords Ulfric would do nothing. If they attacked Nords he would do something. Ulfric IS holding the Dunmer in the Grey Quarter down. Seriously, take a walk through there and chat up the NPCs. Is is quite sickening. At least the Dunmer hated everyone, including themselves.

Last I checked, the only truly racist character was Rolff in Windhelm. I swear, if my eyes do not lie, that I saw a Dunmer walking to Windhelm, telling me he was going to join the Stormcloaks.

And, you use Ulfric as your only example of a racist character, because he is the only truly racist character. Rolff is a harmless drunk that hurls threats. Ulfric is a maniac that doesn't just hate non-Nords. The Stormcloaks themselves are good people, and are fighting for their beliefs. And Ulfric knows that, and is using that to make them fight for him and win the throne for him. Judging EVERY Nord with him as your only example is FAR worse than my example of the Dunmer's slavery problem. Mainly because centuries ago it was FAR more prevalent, entirely legal, and generally viewed as completely fine. Karma took it's time, because nothing bad has happened to the Dunmer, until the eruption.

I can name many non-racist Nords. Ysolda, Brunwulf Free-winter, Hadvar, Ralof (A Stormcloak), Advar, Sigrid, Gerdur, Hod, Jarl Balgruuf the Greater, Jarl Elisif the Fair, Jarl Idgrod Ravencrone, Falk Firebeard, Susanne the Wicked, Aela the Huntress, Farkas, Vilkas, Skjor, Kodlak Whitemane, etc.

So, basically every single Nord character in the game.

The Nords are far from racist, but Ulfric being a total dike to anybody that doesn't conform to his thoughts and beliefs paint them in a bad light.

My hate for Dunmer has been brooding since Morrowind, and the massive amount of love they get from fans only made it worse. I hate the race, and I love them because of it. They're compelling enough to make me hate them, and that's an ode to Beth's writing.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:20 pm

Internet Rule #71:

The Internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

and dont forget: Rule 105: Rule 71 is SERIOUS [censored] BUSINESS
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:57 pm

You want to kill an entire race(s) because you don't like the way they look... how is this not an appropriate anology? There is nothing ridiculous about Khajiit and Argonians, they are an important part of the world of TES, perhaps you need to look beyond the human provinces to see the world is not a carbon copy if Lord of the Rings.
I gave him a link to show the OP an even stranger race the Sload.
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You know it strikes me that no one would ever compare Morrowind to Tolkien s work like this lol. Waaayy to outlandish.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:48 am

This is my first day on these forums and this thread is making it worth it.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:51 am

The Nords are far from racist, but Ulfric being a total dike to anybody that doesn't conform to his thoughts and beliefs paint them in a bad light.

My hate for Dunmer has been brooding since Morrowind, and the massive amount of love they get from fans only made it worse. I hate the race, and I love them because of it. They're compelling enough to make me hate them, and that's an ode to Beth's writing.
The Nords do have a superiority complex and some seem racist. I do agree Ulfric is an arrogant swine, who probably wants to make a Nordic empire for himself.

I have a similar thought on the Thalmor like you have for the Dunmer, I do not like their ways but I find them very fascinating, I do not hate them tho.

Tell me have you ever played a Dunmer.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:41 am

You know it strikes me that no one would ever compare Morrowind to Tolkien s work like this lol. Waaayy to outlandish.

I can't even compare Skyrim's world to Tolkien.

Maybe it was Blackreach, the molten tundra, the frozen glacial waters, or pretty much every [censored] area in the game, but I didn't really get a Tolkien-ish feel as I ran around, stabbing APE-LIKE trolls and chatting with my SENTIENT FEMALE ORC follower.
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I gave him a link to show the OP an even stranger race the Sload.

Sload sound epic. Gentlemen, I call for a Sload DLC in Skyrim now!

Also, needs moar cowbell!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:42 am

The Nords do have a superiority complex and some seem racist. I do agree Ulfric is an arrogant swine, who probably wants to make a Nordic empire for himself.

I have a similar thought on the Thalmor like you have for the Dunmer, I do not like their ways but I find them very fascinating, I do not hate them tho.

Tell me have you ever played a Dunmer.

Yes, I have. I hate them so much I HAVE to make one.
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This is my first day on these forums and this thread is making it worth it.
Did you get a fishy stick.

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I gave him a link to show the OP an even stranger race the Sload.

your wish has been granted'

http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sload
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Sload sound epic. Gentlemen, I call for a Sload DLC in Skyrim now!

Also, needs moar cowbell!
I have wanted to actually see the Sload for years.
Yes, I have. I hate them so much I HAVE to make one.
Way to roleplay, I would make a Thalmor in a heart beat.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:31 am

If only Beth would have stuck to the original idea that the cats and lizards would not be playable races, the fury population in the forums would be drastically reduced.
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