Bethesda - Bringing Mods to the Console.

Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:18 am

sony/microsoft already said they wouldnt do it

I.E. they confirmed that they want money through, not fun for their players and users.
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Samantha Jane Adams
 
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:53 am

What I have seen by reading the first ten posts:

1. PC Elites: Not possible, MS and Sony already said no(inaccurate) just spend $1000 on a gaming PC so our form of gaming doesn't become obsolete.

2. Console Gamers: PLEZEPLZEZEZASESZESZE MOdz onCONSOLZSE
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abi
 
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:24 am

Who said it was good? I'm well aware PC gaming is better as that's what I used for many years.

But in terms of money, the console is the better choice. Don't invent arguments to be a part of the PC Master Race.

I didn't invent anything, I simply stated the truth.

And no, the console isn't the better choice in any way.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:58 am

Not really. PC games are usually £10 than their console equivalents. You buy 10 games and you've saved yourself £100. In addition to better graphics and the possibilities of modding, it's a better choice for money if you're that interested.

Oh goodness, please read what I said.

I'm not talking about costs of the games, you guys are like a cult. You're not going to suddenly make my bills go away or my income go up to build/buy a gaming rig.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:49 am

Mods won't come to consoles because MS/Sony can't make money on them. Simple as that. Can you imagine the heads that would explode at those companies if Bethesda tried to convince them to pay to push out new free content that they won't see a dime off of instead of making another DLC? A new console generation is irrelevant to the answer, because the business policies will be the same.

Take a look at what MS and Sony do when a game comes out with new content through a patch or DLC: they advertise the new content heavily and try to get you to give them money. No attempt is made at bringing in new players.

Now take a look at what Valve does on Steam: they put the game on a discount (usually 50%+), often accompanied with a weekend of free play, and advertise BOTH the game and the new content to get new and old players involved again.

Which one of those business models do you think gels with the idea of distributing free content?

You're apparently ignorant of how mods actually work. There is no futzing around with anything. Installing a mod consists of:

1) Going to www.skyrimnexus.com
2) Seeing a mod that's interesting.
3) Clicking the link to download it with the nexus downloader. The downloader installs it for you automatically.
4) You play the game.

It's easier to download a mod for Skyrim than it is to log in and post on these forums.

Thats not entirely true, in fact its true in a perfect world where everything installs perfectly on your pc.

But in reality we know that if anything can go wrong, that it will, especially when you are dealing with Window's.

Now on the PC I have the tools to fix that problem where as a console doesnt have that option.


Now this doesnt mean that MOD's wont come to consoles, but there will in no way be the mod selection that PC users get to enjoy. I imagine the mods that will be available will be popular mods that dont involve improved textures, and they will have to go through extensive testing to make sure they dont conflict with anything and they will be paid for mods.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:37 pm

I didn't invent anything, I simply stated the truth.

And no, the console isn't the better choice in any way.

Yes, you did. Already stated I was a PC gamer for a long time and the COST is what makes the console better for ME.

You basically invented an argument about graphics and stuff, not something I was talking about.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:41 am

Thanks for proving my point.
That PCs cost 1000s of dollars? That Microsoft and Sony have said that they'd love to allow user modding of their games?

I proved nothing apart from the fact that your facts are [censored].

Oh goodness, please read what I said.

I'm not talking about costs of the games, you guys are like a cult. You're not going to suddenly make my bills go away or my income go up to build/buy a gaming rig.
My point is a valid reason. In the long run, PC gaming can be a lot cheaper. I'm not a cult, I'm stating facts relative to your argument. You said console gaming is cheaper, I disagreed.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:42 pm

Yes, you did. Already stated I was a PC gamer for a long time and the COST is what makes the console better for ME.

You basically invented an argument about graphics and stuff, not something I was talking about.

I didn't invent that argument. It's been there all along.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:48 am

I didn't invent that argument. It's been there all along.

You responded to ME and brought it up as if I was arguing the other side, which made it wrong.

You need some lessons in logic. I never said console gaming was superior, I said it's cheaper. That's it. So then, what's the point of bringing up anything else?
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:41 am

You responded to ME and brought it up as if I was arguing the other side, which made it wrong.

You need some lessons in logic. I never said console gaming was superior, I said it's cheaper. That's it. So then, what's the point of bringing up anything else?

Because, obviously there's usually more than one side to everything.
But I'm sure you're right. If you want to pay less to get less I guess that makes sense.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:04 am

Because, obviously there's usually more than one side to everything.
But I'm sure you're right. If you want to pay less to get less I guess that makes sense.

My point was, if I built/bought(not gonna happen) a gaming rig 5 years ago, it wouldn't run almost anything now.

The console will run any game that comes out for it as long as it exists.

My point. That's it. Nothing about mods, nothing about visuals being better, etc.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:47 pm

My point was, if I built/bought(not gonna happen) a gaming rig 5 years ago, it wouldn't run almost anything now.
It's a pity that's completely false, though. I built my PC about 5 years ago and it still runs the newest games (including Skyrim) just fine, because these games are held back by the consoles.

The console will run any game that comes out for it as long as it exists.
Yeah, I was playing Skyrim on my N64 earlier too.

My point. That's it. Nothing about mods, nothing about visuals being better, etc.
If that's the only point you have to offer that's not much to say.

That said, I own a 360 and I play games on it regularly. It just doesn't rival the PC's quality.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:39 pm

>PC
>increasingly obsolete

You sure you don't mean consoles? PCs won't be becoming obsolete any time soon, unless someone hurries up and develops quantum-scale processors.
"obsolete gaming system"

please if you're going to try to refute my point, please be accurate with what I was stating.

Fewer and fewer people play games on the PC. It is fact. Not even Elitists can refute facts...or can they?
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:04 am

As long as the mods were tested first and were not stuff like extreme res textures or anything to make the console struggle, - stuff like custom campaigns, addons such as new armors, weapons etc - if those things passed a certain criteria, there would be nothing to stop Beth from adding them to one of their own DLC packages in the future.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:22 am

Reading between the lines of your posts you really seem like a console fanb0y
It's okey that you don't have such a good gaming system, just stick to the more mediocre versions of games and all will be fine.


Hey bud, i have a console but i dont rant on against pc gamers. so how bout you ease of on the anti console eh? because for me its affordable with the lifestyle and job i have. not everyone can get a high end pc. so easy ok.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:59 am

Hey bud, i have a console but i dont rant on against pc gamers. so how bout you ease of on the anti console eh? because for me its affordable with the lifestyle and job i have. not everyone can get a high end pc. so easy ok.

Hey bud, thanks but no thanks. I prefer ranting.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:22 pm

It's a pity that's completely false, though. I built my PC about 5 years ago and it still runs the newest games (including Skyrim) just fine, because these games are held back by the consoles.

Yeah, I was playing Skyrim on my N64 earlier too.

If that's the only point you have to offer that's not much to say.

That said, I own a 360 and I play games on it regularly. It just doesn't rival the PC's quality.

I was commenting on any game that comes out for the 360 playable for the life of the 360, which is true. Also any game that comes out for the 360 will work on it, until they stop making games for the console. Way to miss the point.

Your 5 year old gaming PC plays EVERYTHING that's come out? I smell bull dookie on that one.

PC's Quality. Once again bringing up a moot point I already agreed with. Stop being a PC cultist.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:52 pm

QUICK QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION:

What's the most recent statement from Bethesda on this? I saw someone else ask that a few pages back, but haven't seen anything that looks like an actual link or quote on this, just a bunch of educated guesses. Last thing I saw was basically "we'd like to do this but have no idea how," mentioned months before the game was even out.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:41 pm

Hey bud, i have a console but i dont rant on against pc gamers. so how bout you ease of on the anti console eh? because for me its affordable with the lifestyle and job i have. not everyone can get a high end pc. so easy ok.
For $600 (Twice that of the standard console price) you can get a PC that will run games at max quality, and will last more than two generations of either console. It's actually cheaper, and you get better graphics and performance the entire time.

And as for OP's question: It has been confirmed that mods on console wont occur with Skyrim, but it's very possible that it will with Bethesda's next game.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:23 am

"obsolete gaming system"

please if you're going to try to refute my point, please be accurate with what I was stating.

Fewer and fewer people play games on the PC. It is fact. Not even Elitists can refute facts...or can they?
currently, overall, yes fewer and fewer play on pc but you have to ask why? and is it good for the gaming industry?

when new consoles come out, the hardware is 'newer' and hence game developers can take advantage of the progressive and never-ending advances in hardware technology. however, when the current generation of console begins to show it's age, then game developers are hindered by older slower hardware. simple fact. while on pc, there is no such sine wave that the developers have to worry about. not to mention that everyone who plays games most likely already owns a pc. and for less than the price of a gaming console they could 'upgrade' that pc to play any game out there. so, again we go back to why are fewer and fewer gamers playing on pc?

by the way, just because i chose to answer your question does not make be a pc elitist. or does it?
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:39 pm

My PC only cost me around 1000 even, I can play all my games on the highest resolutions and they are absolutely breathtaking in terms of performance and image quality, not to mention my games aren't buggy as hell. Feels good man.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:09 pm

For $600 (Twice that of the standard console price) you can get a PC that will run games at max quality, and will last more than two generations of either console. It's actually cheaper, and you get better graphics and performance the entire time.

And as for OP's question: It has been confirmed that mods on console wont occur with Skyrim, but it's very possible that it will with Bethesda's next game.

Some games, not all.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/01/06/total-war-shogun-2-system-specs-revealed/

A gaming rig 5 years ago probably wouldn't run Shogun 2 for example. Did you have a core i5 processor back then?
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:57 am

NO. How about you console players convert to PC so game companies can stop STREAMLINING games (read: making them too easy) to satisfy the most casual player?

Might aswell drop that argument, alot of pc only titles including the top mmo has constantly been downgrading since release to cater to the casuals.

As for the pc v console argument yes pc's are more powerfull its undeniable, but the graphics leap is not that big and yes i have a decent computer, it used to multibox wow with everything maxed in [censored] getting 100ish fps main and 30+ across the 4 followers( had them locked at 35) had no trouble with the shadows in wrath either.

Yet i still sit and chill on my consoles, i wont miss modding either i spent ages playing them on nwn and they kept that game going for years for some, but the bugs and lack of quality puts me straight off.

s h a t= Shattrath, censors...
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:56 pm

For $600 (Twice that of the standard console price) you can get a PC that will run games at max quality, and will last more than two generations of either console. It's actually cheaper, and you get better graphics and performance the entire time.

And as for OP's question: It has been confirmed that mods on console wont occur with Skyrim, but it's very possible that it will with Bethesda's next game.


Hmm i suppose, any particular suggestions? im not realy much of a pc guy so i wouldnt have a clue, ta bud.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:58 am

...and will last more than two generations of either console.

Eh? If that means what I think it means then you're probably stretching the reality of it a bit dude. The next generation of consoles, will invariably use close to what is the best availiable PC tech at the time. If the new consoles get released in 2013 then $600 spent now (in 2011) will generally out-perform the current consoles but it aint going to match the new ones.

Presumably you meant a $600 PC purchase just prior to release of the next gen of consoles?
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