Bethesda, I really hope Dawnguard isn't your "big" D : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:27 am

You still see only the questlines...there is so much MORE

OH right, vampire lords, crossbows, new housing, haircuts, dragonbone weapons. And who knows what else. But, questlines are important to me. But thats just me.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:24 pm

OH right, vampire lords, crossbows, new housing, haircuts, dragonbone weapons. And who knows what else. But, questlines are important to me. But thats just me.

All that...and MOAR

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:56 am

All that...and MOAR

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» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:29 pm

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No Spoilers! But those who dont get DG will not only miss out on the Vamp Awesomeness but will also miss out on expanding Skyrim itself

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:23 pm

How long it lasts will depend on how you play. I have around 600 hours invested in the main game and I still find new stuff almost every time I play.

Bottom line is, if you think you can get the most out of it, buy it. If not then you may be better off leaving it alone.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:23 pm

You hyperbolic spin doctors don't even know what lying is, you act like spoiled little 5 year olds in training diapers who accuse their parents of lying to them about going to Disney Land because their parents got fired and can no longer afford to do what they planned.

Molyneux and Todd do not lie, that would mean they pretend and invent game features just to make you excited, and if you really think that's going on you need to stop contributing to the Dunning Krueger Effect and learn some healthy critical thinking.

Over ambitious developers telling you more about what they want in the games than they are supposed to is the issue here, and people complain about developers for not telling them anything but the same old routine for months on end. THIS IS WHY. Game design is a fluid ever changing process.

If you actually realize Molyneux and Howard are simply talking too much about their ambitions, and you're still calling them liars, this makes you the liar. It's your fault we don't get nice things and the same crap is reported as gaming news for months on end without anything new, all because you can't realize these games are in flux and a grand majority of making games is about compromising with your producers.

Oh boo hoo, mommy lied to me.

I agree with you about Molyneux and I gotta say I do respect the man's ambition and vision even if he does get a little exited and announce features that dont make it into the final game, Todd Howard expecting us to believe that the lady torching her dog with a fireball was a totally random and unscripted event made possible through radiant AI on the other hand? Pretty sure that one falls under the realm of pure [censored].

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:00 pm

No Spoilers! But those who dont get DG will not only miss out on the Vamp Awesomeness but will also miss out on expanding Skyrim itself

Maybe even the remote possibility to visit a tiny peace of Morrowind, since Fort Dawnguard could be placed beyond the famous open gate that leads where many have noclipped so far! :smile:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:38 am

Maybe we are reading a different OP.

No I think I read the same OP as Sage however I do think it is a tad unrealistic to expect something like Shivering Isles at this stage as DLC, perhaps later when the are ready to release a full expansion pack but not as DLC, personally with Dawnguard I was only expecting something a bit larger than Knights of the Nine but it looks like Dawnguard will be far larger than that.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:16 pm

last night (as you do) me and a couple of people did discuss what these *side-quest* might be , and we came to the conclusion that it will almost certainly entail the snow prince , who is now in-fact a vampire , and babeete will be involved

( please do not scoff , if you want to see the full theory ((it does actually add up pretty damn well)) look at "the snow prince" on the hints and cheats thread")

either way , if your the sorta gamer who smashes through the game and dosent play it again , i dont think any amount of hours is going to satisfy you for long :ermm:

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» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:02 am

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» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:02 pm

Shivering Isles was an expansion. Bloodmoon was an expansion. Dawnguard is..well, Dawnguard is 20 bucks. It's 10-20 hours of content, I'm wagering 10 per side, so really just 10.

10 hours of content. Lol. Who hopes Dawnguard isn't the "big" DLC that Bethesda has hinted at for a long time now? Who wants Shivering Isles/Bloodmoon quality/size DLC?

All I'm saying is, Dawnguard is not even near the size of SI and BM in terms of content, at least not from the hours we're being told. I want a proper EXPANSION. Please?

I am happy enough to be offered any DLC for Skyrim, 10hrs is around the base estimation of most action/adventure games these days, so I get DLC that long I am not going to be complaining. They want to offer something even bigger and better later on, that would be a nice extra.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:44 pm

Shivering Isles was an expansion. Bloodmoon was an expansion. Dawnguard is..well, Dawnguard is 20 bucks. It's 10-20 hours of content, I'm wagering 10 per side, so really just 10.

10 hours of content. Lol. Who hopes Dawnguard isn't the "big" DLC that Bethesda has hinted at for a long time now? Who wants Shivering Isles/Bloodmoon quality/size DLC?

All I'm saying is, Dawnguard is not even near the size of SI and BM in terms of content, at least not from the hours we're being told. I want a proper EXPANSION. Please?

Let me guess... Someone took your sweetroll.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:30 pm

im happy we're being offered this dlc but i see the op's point too.
a large expansion would be very welcome,and i'd be willing to pay full game price for such a thing.
im sure however that us fortunate enough to be playing this on pc will be more than catered for by our modmakers,who have already turned this game into so much more than the one i originaly bought! cheers

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:05 am

And here I was under the impression that DG would be more like KOTN, and the second DLC would be the Skyrim SI.
By the looks of it, DG is only giving minor new play spaces, kinda like Tribunal and Kotn.
The next DLC will be the BM/SI.
Mark my words

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:05 am

And here I was under the impression that DG would be more like KOTN, and the second DLC would be the Skyrim SI.
By the looks of it, DG is only giving minor new play spaces, kinda like Tribunal and Kotn.
The next DLC will be the BM/SI.
Mark my words

They Hath Been Marked Mortal...if Thou Lose thy Wager then They Soul belongs to ME

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:37 am

I think it just means it will be bigger than KOTN or fallout dlc, which was numerous but short.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:29 pm

I think it just means it will be bigger than KOTN or fallout dlc, which was numerous but short.

It is much bigger than KotN in Area and Story, bigger than Point Lookout in Quests and Story but not in area

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:46 am

It is much bigger than KotN in Area and Story, bigger than Point Lookout in Quests and Story but not in area

I didn't know they were adding new area. Sure, they adding two castles, a few dungeons, and a realm of oblivion. But to me, Soul cairn just feels like a really cool dungeon, not an exploreable area.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:06 am

I didn't know they were adding new area. Sure, they adding two castles, a few dungeons, and a realm of oblivion. But to me, Soul cairn just feels like a really cool dungeon, not an exploreable area.

There is more

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:54 am

Shivering Isles was an expansion. Bloodmoon was an expansion. Dawnguard is..well, Dawnguard is 20 bucks. It's 10-20 hours of content, I'm wagering 10 per side, so really just 10.

10 hours of content. Lol. Who hopes Dawnguard isn't the "big" DLC that Bethesda has hinted at for a long time now? Who wants Shivering Isles/Bloodmoon quality/size DLC?

All I'm saying is, Dawnguard is not even near the size of SI and BM in terms of content, at least not from the hours we're being told. I want a proper EXPANSION. Please?

Are you a Beta tester? If not then maybe you should wait for it to release before judging it.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:51 am

i want a bigger dlc too. a new landmass with new citys and villages and alot of sidequest to do. but i am excited for dawnguard, like the knights of the nine of skyrim but bigger and has more content!:-) think of it,if the first dlc is big, i think we can expect a really big expansion in the future. hoping for part of morrowind or high rock

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:49 am

Are you a Beta tester? If not then maybe you should wait for it to release before judging it.

This^^ as a Beta Tester i am telling you all now that it is AWESOME

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:29 pm

This^^ as a Beta Tester i am telling you all now that it is AWESOME

Good to know

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:37 pm

This^^ as a Beta Tester i am telling you all now that it is AWESOME

Which is about the extend of what he can tell us until June 26th.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:19 am

thats the main quest. like its been stated you can do skyrims mainquest in that time. what about the new content ect dawnguard offers. trust me you will easily get more than 20 hours out of this...

Skyrim's main story isn't really even that long. :nope:

Bethesda, I really hope Dawnguard isn't your &#34;big&#34; D

Bethesda, I really hope Dawnguard isn't your "big" D