Yep I get that and what just cuz of Lore-__- Maybe its just me but,
How is it explained besides "Its in the Lore and this is a short but not really explaining story of why they get weaker"

Again just my opinion on the matter, not making it fact or anything but you can't really say you agree 100% with how this is done.....unless you really just like to follow the leader and don't want to ask questions even if they may not make a impact. I have myself thinking otherwise, asking is always good even if it doesn't change anything really.

ok ok, the feeding being the wrong way roung is ok, the glitchy feeding is funny, mwwaaaahahahaha im a vampire and im going to drink your blooood... from your leg, but when you feed you shouldnt be sent staight back to stage one i want to stay stage 3, so when i go to stage 4 i have a little drink which take me futher back than i want, then i starve and have to repeat the process

Why on Nirn would my vampire want to be considered a monstrous freak by everyone he meets rather than have potential victims be oblivious to his true nature?
So many things backwards on this thread.

Vampires in Skyrim get weaker from not feeding. The mechanics are clear. You lose health and stamina each time a stage progresses.

No one here is confused on the mechanics of the game. We just don't agree with it. And if your vampire enjoys feeding and becoming weaker then thats good for you and yours. My vampire happens to disagree

I believe some people are confused, as vampires lose health and stamina when not feeding, which makes them weaker, not stronger.
Less than a handful of situational spells and once-a-day powers do not compensate for that.

They lose a bit of Magicka, Health and Stamina, but all of their abilities are enhanced, which again, seems contradictory (more so when you consider that they are growing weaker). Why would a blood-starved creature that lacks the nourishment it needs to survive be able to turn invisible when another vampire that just gorged itself on a family of four is unable to do so. Is for sportsmanship reasons?

In the lore, while it may not have any effect on gameplay, vampires are naturally drawn to fresh sources of blood, and that they need do need a blood source to maintain their sanity and ultimately their abilities. It is also stated that elder vampires, those who have lived the longest of all known vampires, are some of the strongest in Tamriel. Judging by the current gameplay mechanics in which a vampire grows "stronger" without feeding, we could almost liken the disease to a muscle.

Blood would represent rest. If you don't use a muscle, eventually it'll wither and weaken. Staying away from sources of blood would slowly strengthen the disease as you begin to "use" vampirism more often. However, in the case of most muscles, overuse means you might sustain injury, or just general exhaustion. This could be likened to refusing to feed, or being unable to, such as the case of the Grey Prince's father. Vampire's will go insane. However, with a careful balance of learning restraint and feeding, a vampire will become one of the most powerful, and many eventually live long enough to become an elder. That's just my two cents on the matter, trying to support the current system of vampiric powers receeding as one feeds.

...I wonder if there's a vampire version of steroids... enhances your vampiric powers, but makes your fangs shrink.

To be honest though, whether vampires become weaker or stronger is entirely a matter of opinion. Vampires gain new powers without feeding, such as invisibility and resistance to frost. But do you not remember that there are downsides? Weakness to fire? Magicka, stamina and health all going down during the day time, the first two refusing the regenerate?

Now that is a good point.
I dont know.

yes but for a true stealth player a high level vampire is more powerful, most creatures that use magicka, use frost, so your immune at level 4, and i dont mind the 100% weakness to fire, because im a dark elf and naturally resistant, also, the health and other stuff only go down in the day, which is why experienced vamps avoid daytime battle

This is amazing.

See, that's the thing that confuses me about this. I don't get why Bethesda would encourage you not to feed if you were a vampire at all. The more I think about it the more it just seems nonsensical.

I think what would have been a better system then this would be to do away with the whole 4 stage system and make it something where you start out at nothing (Minimum weakness to frost, maximum weakness to fire, weakest drain, etc) and these weaknesses go away the more you feed. If you go for extended periods without feeding, you'll grow weaker and weaker as a result, until you'd be in a position much like you were when you first started out.

In a sense, it would a lot like becoming Dragonborn. At first you have absolutely nothing, but the more shouts you find and the more dragons you kill, the more powers you have and the stronger you become. Likewise, being a fledgling vampire should be a very dangerous position for you, so you need to feed and grow stronger in order to survive.

As far as I'm concerned the only thing that should be stage 1, 2, 3, and 4 for the vampires is the appearances. The abilities you lose when you don't feed are matched by your worsened appearance, further encouraging you to feed at regular intervals. I also think the stage names should reflect how many people you need to feed to regress a stage. If at stage 4 in appearance, you need to feed on 4 people to reach stage 3 and so on.

I like these ideas.

I'm glad. One of the best parts in my opinion is that aside from removing the facial stages and swapping some abilities around, it'd be relatively easy to take this system and run with it for other vampires such as the Volkihar and or the native vampires of other regions. As it stands now if we go to Valenwood or Elsweyr they'll have to come up with entirely new vampire mechanics, especially considering the amount of grief they got from people for not following lore going from Oblivion to Skyrim.

I agree on this as well as you all know
I was trying to say that ,why no one agree with me D: XP

Swapping abilities to where they make sense sounds best.

Don't worry LW, I've got your back.

I don't see what else is there to explain! There is an ingame book that gives some information on it. What exactly do you want to know, then?

I don't mind the backwards feeding. For me, it's alright. If Betheda adds new vampires and makes it so that they get stronger by feeding, then I don't mind either, as long as it doesn't make ALL vampires seem that way.

In a game universe where you can hunt mythical unicorn's, talk to all-powerful demons that can make things happen at the snap of a finger and have a caravan of skooma smuggling cats people complain about vampires getting a slight tweak. I will never understand the world. .-.

What book are you referring to exactly? Immortal Blood says only that they can blend as long as they feed, and Manifesto Cyrodiil Vampyrum makes no reference to them gaining new abilities by refusing to feed either. Obviously it happens in the game mechanics, but I haven't seen anything that establishes lore wise the reasoning behind it.

Seems backwards for you to quote this W&V considering:

I don't understand, I'm assuming you're quoting for effect, but I thought you was the one raising a stink about vampires getting a slight tweak?

Yeah i know but what im meaning is that things in the game change alot vampires in my opinion shouldn't be any different that's just my believe on the matter atleast.

No. Only fledgeling Vampires can maintain the guise of mortality through consuming fresh blood. After a certain age, Vampires can no longer hide their undead nature through feeding. Vicente Valtieri explained this in Oblivion if you had him embrace you. This is why neither Count Hassildor nor Vicente Valtieri went out in public. Both were too old for fresh blood to sustain a mortal appearance. But they still had a taste for it.

There was only about 28 years between TES II: Daggerfall and TES IV: Oblivion. So the odds of the 9 Clans of High Rock/Hammerfall migrating to Cyrodiil, ousting all the other clans, and making a Daedric Pact with Clavicus Vile in such a short period of time, is VERY unlikely.

Vampires are undead. They do not actually need food/blood/sustenance to survive, it just provides them with comfort. Just take a look at how many Vampires there were that had been locked down in Varsa Baalim (Unearthing Mehrunes Razor DLC for Oblivion) for several millenia without anything to feed on. Sure, it drove them ape[censored] insane, but they still survived.
Like others have said, the fresh blood of mortals will suppress Vampirism, allowing the Vampire to blend into mortal society. However, when the Vampire forgoes feeding, the blood in his veins becomes stale, and his Vampirisim progresses, where he becomes less and less a mortal, and more of a supernatural, undead creature. Vampirism continues to progress though even when keeping frequently fed (Although, at a much slower rate), so by the time a Vampire is about 150-200 years old, fresh blood will no longer sustain their mortal appearance.
However, in lore, this was supposed to be unique to the "Order" of Cyrodiil, and because of pure laziness and time constraints (11/11/11), Bethesda decided to recycle it in Skyrim. In TES II: Daggerfall, you actually had to kill every 24 hours (Didn't matter what you killed, could even be a Ghost or Rat) in order to be able to Rest or Fast Travel. In TES III: Morrowind, you didn't even have to kill or feed off of anything. Vampirism was just plain a stat/skill/ability boost that made you burn in the daylight and made almost every single NPC in the entire game instantly hostile to you. Being a Vampire in Morrowind without mods, just plain [censored] svckED!

And that is where the implication comes in. Time and time again when a mortal makes a deal with Clavicus Vile, there is always a price to be paid. Considering the Cyrodiilic vampires greatest strength is their knack for blending in, it is safe to assume if they wish any greater power than that, they must forsake the consumption of blood for four days, and lose their mortal countenance. It would be unlike Vile to grant Cyrodiilic vampires the ability to blend in and a more controlled sense of the thirst without providing them with a drawback. It is not in his nature to be overly benevolent. We see how he gives his vampiric worshipers a "cure". Or a cure for a wizard's Lycanthropic daughter. We see how he claimed back his Masque from Avalea when she most needed it.

When supernatural pacts are made, you can expect there is always a price to be paid. The Circle from the Companions made a pact with the Glenmoril Witches, to be granted greater power if they hunted in the name of their Lord, Hircine. And the cost of that, depending on the point of view of the werewolf, was their soul. A Nord dreams of Sovngarde, but upon death, Hircine has a foothold over them, though I am sure you know this.

I actually thought he meant people complaining about backwards feeding. My mistake.