Dawnguard should cost 4 bucks : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:24 am

this, the customer decides if its fair in this case

Well, true, but that's a subjective sort of evaluation in that case, and it'll be different for everybody. If you have no interest in a quest revolving around vampires, the DLC might not be worth $20. If you wear lots of black, read Anne Rice and write gloomy poetry in your room, you might think it would be a bargain at twice the price.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:22 am

Personal opinion. Everyone has the choice of deciding the dlc is worth the price or not. And what one person does has no effect on what someone else chooses.

Yes, indeed. However, I think the OP, and certainly myself, are trying to take a look at the price from a more objective point of view, pardon the oxymoron. It's one thing to say, like I do, "I dislike Vampires", another to atate "The price is disproportionatet to the content". We can't really argue with the first statement. But we can have a conversation about the 2nd.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:17 am

But you're the one always talking about content. Dawnguard adds more than vampires, much more. But I can't say anything else lest I risk the banhammer

Look another beta tester D: (Ijelly)
And i know dawnguard add alot

Are you talking about stuff we already know? like werewolf perk tree,Crossbow,,Change appereance and that sort of content? or stuff we havent heard about?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:20 pm

Yes, indeed. However, I think the OP, and certainly myself, are trying to take a look at the price from a more objective point of view, pardon the oxymoron. It's one thing to say, like I do, "I dislike Vampires", another to atate "The price is disproportionatet to the content". We can't really argue with the first statement. But we can have a conversation about the 2nd.

But price is not determined by content, it's determined by what the seller thinks they can get it sold for most profitably.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Hi there DeathCl0ck.

Excuse me, but why do you always give a greeting when commenting to somebody els? It's actually quite annoying and unnecessary, especially considering that you don't do it out of politeness at all.

I can only say to you what I've said in response to a similar query:
I do it because I want to.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:11 pm

Look another beta tester D: (Ijelly)
And i know dawnguard add alot

Are you talking about stuff we already know? like werewolf perk tree,Crossbow,,Change appereance and that sort of content? or stuff we havent heard about?

I really wish I could tell you, but I can't. As soon as its released expect us to flood the forums with stuff. It's amazing.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:19 pm

Shivering Isles was much more expensive, and it should have been priced at 20 bucks. Dawnguard is actually seems like it will be worth the price. 4 dollars is how much you should pay for standalone Bethesda made house DLC and the like. Something that is at least 10 hours or more should be priced over 14 dollars just because you usually are getting a good amount of new content.

Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires had only free dlc because it was all costumes that had no impact on the game, or the company was smart enough to know people play Dynasty Warriors to kill a million things in an hour.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:13 pm

I really wish I could tell you, but I can't. As soon as its released expect us to flood the forums with stuff. It's amazing.

I take that as it is stuff we havent heard about yet :3
Hope you are enyoying dawnguard :smile:

And i wonder if info on UESP.net and other elder scrolls wikis will be there on the 26th when people are allowed to talk about it,

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:02 pm

Gram, Hi!

But price is not determined by content, it's determined by what the seller thinks they can get it sold for most profitably.

Well, fine. From Beth's point of view, that just might be the case. However, from the consumer point of view, how do you propose we evaluate price? I'm not saying it's the only factor one should pounder upon, but it certainly is important.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:05 pm

I'm sorry, this is just flawed.

Mortal Kombat 9 has 32 characters, with 3 or so DLC characters costing 5 bucks each. By that price the base game should cost $160 just for the characters, never mind the other content.
Call of Duty is a $60 game, you will end up paying around $80 for buying the DLC that adds like 20 maps. The base game has 20 maps.

This money to length ratio is useless. No company would ever use it. DLC would never sell that cheap.

As said before, $20 is a good price for 20 hours of content compared to how some full length games cost $60 and have only 10 hours of content.

(Don't hate me for using Call of Duty as an example.)

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:16 pm

But price is not determined by content, it's determined by what the seller thinks they can get it sold for most profitably.

This, whilst at the same time not making the player feel like they got ripped off because that is bad for business. If they felt the dlc really was not worth 1600 MS points/$20 they would not sell it for that price.

It would be a sure fire way of making people reject your next dlc

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:59 pm

Hi again.

But you're the one always talking about content. Dawnguard adds more than vampires, much more. But I can't say anything else lest I risk the banhammer

Yes, I can understand that. I trust your judgement, in the sense that there must be more to Dawnguard than just vampires but you're not allowed to mention it here. Ok. However, vampires are the main theme, MQ revolves around them. new perks, abilities, shouts, landmass, etc. It's one big chunk of chocolate ice cream, and I just don't like chocolate ice cream. So even if it was handed out for free on the street, I'd still pass. That is what I meant.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:08 am

Hi again.

Yes, I can understand that. I trust your judgement, in the sense that there must be more to Dawnguard than just vampires but you're not allowed to mention it here. Ok. However, vampires are the main theme, MQ revolves around them. new perks, abilities, shouts, landmass, etc. It's one big chunk of chocolate ice cream, and I just don't like chocolate ice cream. So even if it was handed out for free on the street, I'd still pass. That is hat I meant.

Funny that you used chocolate ice cream as an example, because I understand your point now I dislike it and offered it for free I'd pass and instead pay for some strawberry xD

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:23 pm

That isn't very logical

It's actually perfectly logical. Just not reasonable.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:45 am

I really wish I could tell you, but I can't. As soon as its released expect us to flood the forums with stuff. It's amazing.

WHY AREN'T YOU TESTING :swear:

get to work :drag:

......

On topic, I find $20 for a DLC rather satisfactory, like many have said before me. Beth. could have chose to charge $30+ but took the middle ground, or they could have chose not to make a DLC for Skyrim and just end the series at that, you defeating Alduin , no more after that. :wink:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:11 pm

WHY AREN'T YOU TESTING :swear:

get to work :drag:

......

On topic, I find $20 for a DLC rather satisfactory, like many have said before me. Beth. could have chose to charge $30+ but took the middle ground, or they could have chose not to make a DLC for Skyrim and just end the series at that, you defeating Alduin , no more after that. :wink:

I am testing lol, I'm on my phone checking the forums as well because I have no life xD

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:45 pm

I am testing lol, I'm on my phone checking the forums as well because I have no life xD

How many bugs have you found so far? If that's allowed to be answered.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:54 am

How many bugs have you found so far? If that's allowed to be answered.

I can't say anything more than this, it's better than could reasonably be expected of Beth, they are just amazing at what they do.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:06 pm

I am testing lol, I'm on my phone checking the forums as well because I have no life xD

YAAAY, I'm not the only one that does that.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:41 am

How many bugs have you found so far? If that's allowed to be answered.

As long as he dosen't tell us specifics.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:58 am

Gram, Hi!

Well, fine. From Beth's point of view, that just might be the case. However, from the consumer point of view, how do you propose we evaluate price? I'm not saying it's the only factor one should pounder upon, but it certainly is important.

Fair enough. I can't really agree to a simplistic "dollars per hour played" model though. It's certainly a factor, I admit, but it's more than that.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:23 am

YAAAY, I'm not the only one that does that.

Of course not lol I have the forums up on my phone and song of the dragonborn playing on my laptop in an infinite loop xd

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:35 am

I am testing lol, I'm on my phone checking the forums as well because I have no life xD

I'm here on the forums to get my " Skyrim fix " until the kiddies go to bed then it's time to go questing( after a smoke that is :wink:

) so your not the only one without a life :no:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:02 am

Even if the DLC had ONLY 10 hours, like the entire thing, you're still getting you're money's worth

Think about it, even if you made minimum wage ($8 an hour), it would take you only 2.5 hours to make the money to buy it. So in terms of how many hours in the game, you would be getting 4x the amount of content than you actually paid for.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:44 am

I'm here on the forums to get my " Skyrim fix " until the kiddies go to bed then it's time to go questing( after a smoke that is :wink:

) so your not the only one without a life :no:

Glad to know I'm not alone in that xD I wonder how many of us are going to post spoilers etc on the 26th?