Dawnguard should cost 4 bucks : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:23 pm

But sales =/= profit.

Actually, once they made the game, it doesn't cost anything more to sell the game to each person. Meaning, once they cover the cost of making the game, everything else is pure profit. Also, the most expensive part of the game is building the game mechanics from scratch, which they don't have to do for dlc. They only cost is paying for labor.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:34 pm

If it were like that, it would help the gaming economy quite a bit. I only would have paid 20-30 bucks maybe less for Revelations, but a lot more for Skyrim. Ubi has become greedy, but this isn't about them! Making content = price would help the economy in more ways than one IMO.

CD Projekt red, The Witcher 2, their expansions/DLCs are completely free. I love that about them.

That might be, but the post I was questioning specified Bethesda. There was nothing about any other company in the post I was replying to.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:47 am

Game length SHOULD equal price, and amount of content, etc.
I was disappointed when I finished AC: Revelations in 10 hours, and I slacked around on there a lot too.

Hi again.
Yes, Skyrim is the only reference price wise for its DLC. Talking about whatever FPS, or any game for that matter, and its price has been rendered irrelevant, because after Beth released 300 hour worth of content for 60 bucks it has de facto established a gauge. It is against Skyrim's original gameplay hours / price ratio we should compare Dawnguard's, not some other game.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:39 am

$15-$20 sounds about right to me.

$10 or less would be extremely generous. Over $20 would be greedy.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:50 am

Actually, once they made the game, it doesn't cost anything more to sell the game to each person. Meaning, once they cover the cost of making the game, everything else is pure profit. Also, the most expensive part of the game is building the game mechanics from scratch, which they don't have to do for dlc. They only cost is paying for labor.

Keep in mind that when all of the original investment goes into making a project like this, that the original profit margin includes projected sales from DLC. It's not like they just wake up one day and say "Hey let's make a DLC! We already have the engine made! This is going to be some easy extra cash!"

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:44 am

plus beth will use the money to continue to support the game it could be a lot worse price wise tbh

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:52 am

I don't have an issue paying $20 for a well crafted expansion, I have an issue paying $60 for a lot of the games out there that are complete turds.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:40 am

You know who has overpriced DLC? Two worlds 2...

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:17 am

Hi again.
Yes, Skyrim is the only reference price wise for its DLC. Talking about whatever FPS, or any game for that matter, and its price has been rendered irrelevant, because after Beth released 300 hour worth of content for 60 bucks it has de facto established a gauge. It is against Skyrim's original gameplay hours / price ratio we should compare Dawnguard's, not some other game.

Cool, I was just saying, and I contributed to my conversation with the fellow. And I didn't even say anything about an FPS. Since Revelations was just 10 hours, and Dawnguard is not, I compared the two, trying to say $20 is well worth it for 10-20 of the MQ.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:58 pm

10 for the content of the DLC would be exceptionally generous IMO, 30 would be all kinds of LOL since Skyrim is STILL 60$ (XD), they hit the mark with 20 I'd say, ontop of the additions they've given with the Patches, not bad. but in no way should that equate to the lenght of ones playtime with it because effectively DawnGuard= Skyrim playtime hours, there is no Diverging line between the two unless you're counting strictly the MQ of DawnGuard

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:41 am

Hello!

$15-$20 sounds about right to me.

$10 or less would be extremely generous. Over $20 would be greedy.

Borderline greedy then? :biggrin:

I would never call Beth greedy. I am not prepared to make that moral assessment. I don't really know what motivated them to establish that price tag. All I know is I feel it is too steep. Realize I'll be passing this DLC but fear this could be an indication regarding future packs in which I might be interested. Todd did mention they will not all fall down on the same 20 bucks range, though.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:27 am

Cool, I was just saying, and I contributed to my conversation with the fellow. And I didn't even say anything about an FPS. Since Revelations was just 10 hours, and Dawnguard is not, I compared the two, trying to say $20 is well worth it for 10-20 of the MQ.

Hi.
I might have misinterpretd some of your post. And I did fail to mention I agree with your point. There should be a correlation between price and content.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:07 pm

Hello!

Borderline greedy then? I would never call Beth greedy. I am not prepared to make that moral assessment. I don't really know what motivated them to establish that price tag. All I know is I feel it is too steep. Realize I'll be passing this DLC but fear this could be an indication regarding future packs in which I might be interested. Todd did mention they will not all fall down on the same 20 bucks range, though.

Might I suggest skipping out on 2 movies, or 4 subway sandwiches for this dlc? You never know what might be in.
Just my humble opinion though

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:58 pm

Twenty bucks is pretty steep, but I'd gladly support Bethesda. Hopefully next we get another Shivering Isles, I'd pay about $60 for that! :tes:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:39 am

Hello!

Borderline greedy then? :biggrin:

I would never call Beth greedy. I am not prepared to make that moral assessment. I don't really know what motivated them to establish that price tag. All I know is I feel it is too steep. Realize I'll be passing this DLC but fear this could be an indication regarding future packs in which I might be interested. Todd did mention they will not all fall down on the same 20 bucks range, though.

Then your missing out. the beta testers say it adds a large amont of new features not even involved with the MQ Of the expansion.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:23 pm

Might I suggest skipping out on 2 movies, or 4 subway sandwiches for this dlc? You never know what might be in.
Just my humble opinion though :wink:

Of course, you are a beta tester, while I am not... I went out to watch Prometheus 3D. Almost half of Dawnguard's price tag lost in there. :biggrin:

I just have no interest in Vampires. Even if it were 4 bucks, I'd still pass.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:58 am

XD they would never lower the price.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:27 pm

This is silly dawnguard will be well worth the $20, I have paid $60 for full titles that were less the 10 hours gameplay.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:20 am

Of course, you are a beta tester, while I am not... I went out to watch Prometheus 3D. Almost half of Dawnguard's price tag lost in there. :biggrin:

I just have no interest in Vampires. Even if it were 4 bucks, I'd still pass.

Personal opinion. Everyone has the choice of deciding the dlc is worth the price or not. And what one person does has no effect on what someone else chooses.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:18 pm

Considering most games cost $60 new and only give an average of 10 - 20 hours I think Dawnguard will be a bargain at only $20

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:46 am

Think about it. Skyrim was estimated by Todd Howard to be 300 hours, and cost 60 bucks. That is five hours per buck. He then estimated Dawnguard to be 20 hours, but it cost 20 bucks. So, to be fair to the regular game, Dawnguard should reduce its cost down to 4 bucks.

Yeah, thing is, there is no "fair" or "unfair" with pricing. They charge what they want, and the customer buys it - or not. That's the deal; there's no such thing as a fair or unfair price.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:04 am

Of course, you are a beta tester, while I am not... I went out to watch Prometheus 3D. Almost half of Dawnguard's price tag lost in there. :biggrin:

I just have no interest in Vampires. Even if it were 4 bucks, I'd still pass.

But you're the one always talking about content. Dawnguard adds more than vampires, much more. But I can't say anything else lest I risk the banhammer

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:25 pm

Yeah, thing is, there is no "fair" or "unfair" with pricing. They charge what they want, and the customer buys it - or not. That's the deal; there's no such thing as a fair or unfair price.

this, the customer decides if its fair in this case

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:30 am

Hi.
I might have misinterpretd some of your post. And I did fail to mention I agree with your point. There should be a correlation between price and content.

Excuse me, but why do you always give a greeting when commenting to somebody els? It's actually quite annoying and unnecessary, especially considering that you don't do it out of politeness at all.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:28 pm

Excuse me, but why do you always give a greeting when commenting to somebody els? It's actually quite annoying and unnecessary, especially considering that you don't do it out of politeness at all.

I actually consider them to be one of the most polite members on the boards.