When have I ever made that assumption. I like the advantage and disadvantages that is what makes it an fun and interesting challenge.

Its plain in simple if a light charges a heavy and gets blown away he deserves to die since he is an idiot.

Lights are all about hit and run tactics they will be shredded in a straight firefight.

Also where are all these people clamoring? Anyway ignore them they are idiots.



Heh way to be conscending. This game is about weighing the pros and cons of everything before choosing body and class.

As another fun note for all the newcomers everyone starts at Medium. So even when you get the game you can't be either of these.

This debate is nothing more that favorism and speculation until the game comes out then we can settle it like men.

you took my post totally out of context, i was going on about how heavies would be seen when several of the light's would have had what they wanted, seriously underpowered heavy guns so they wouldn't have to drool over the heavies and their heavy weaponry


indeed, and i wish it was so far already :drool:


sorry, but it just happens to be that those who are complaining about the heavies are easiest to see as light players :blush:

I said some people, not all. Complaints about weapons and bodytypes in general, seem to come from the Light crowd.

yeah,because the light players don't want a challenge. They want to be the "Uber-elite' gamers that just mow through the competition. but yeah, i see what youre saying.

Funny cuz I here reptaR complaining ALL THE TIME about lights and ninjas and how they cant be 2 fast. Granted lots of people want the light to be overpowered, just stop grouping them all into the same group.



Yes because they because they seem to forget "lights bruise in a stiff wind", in reality lights will be a huge challenge for people with this mentality.

as long as they aren't as fast as Usain Bolt i think i could live with it:p
and reptaR isn't exactly your average player :whistling:


roger, you got a name to call them? cuz saying "those lights who are trying to overpower the light-body type and/or underpowering the heavy-body type" is a bit long, and "copy+paste" is so much more boring than typing in a short name


indeed, i will be happy to show them the outcome of facing a heavy with a machine gun at a close/medium range

yep, thats exctly what i meant. they want heavy health with light speed. which is why these kinds of people will do good as the medium body size IMO

I am still waiting for the list of ALL THESE PEOPLE who want an overpowered light. Plenty of people want to be light for the advantages already listen.




I don't.

care to elaborate?

Wow really, are you dim? Lights are fine as is.

i complain about everything

When you complain about everything, people who don't complain will enjoy the game more than you do, while you wish for everything to be perfect (which it won't) and ranting about everything, people will be having the time of their lives.

Unless you are being sarcastic, then you did not see this post :bolt:

You have just been Trolled um reptaRed??

yea. most of the things i complain about are some of the stupid ideas that other people come up with. i just want everything to be as fair as possible

....What?



If you are disagreeing thats different but I mean like, when the game comes out, you complain about getting killed by *insert thing here* or that it isn't perfect.

I am all about balance, I am sure there will be plenty of scrubs now and when the game comes out.

Heavies would win easily. You can run at the big guy with the big gun as fast as you want, the bullets will just be hitting you harder.

Just remember that high and mighty attitude when you get backstabbed. bliviongate:

I don't think they would win an in your face fight, I think they would be more for a higher altitude type fight. Like from on top of buildings and other vantage points inaccessible by heavies. In a direct fire fight, light would be forced to run and come back only to shoot him in the back. Probably run around a corner and jump a wall, or something like that. Or if shooting throws your aim off, strafing may be effective in game.

Well, the Heavies deserve to win if the Light is dumb enough to run at him quickly. You make it seem like everyone who plays light are massive idiots and have kind of ignored every advantage the light has and every disadvantage the Heavy has. No way would somebody run straight at the Heavy quickly on purpose.

And I don't see how you went on for about a page of comments about how the forums are filled with Light's who want everything about the Light to be amazing and everything about the Heavy terrible. You can make up stereotypes about a group, but they don't work if there is no proof for this stereotype. And as i have said, there has to be a big difference in something, be it speed, or places to climb, because the difference in weaponry is quite significant. (Seriously, a revolver and an SMG vs. A Chain Gun and an AR is a very large difference). Because I say this, doesn't mean automatically that everything is unfair and that the Lights deserve every advantage because the Heavies have too many. If it were so, then i would just play heavy

i was going to quote, but it seems a whole lot of the earlier comments were severely edited.
but still i can remember clearly someone commented that he would run straight at a heavy and start strafing while shooting him. while counting on his speed to "dodge" the bullets the heavy might spray at him


we had proof, there were tons of comments. how can we help it when people start editing their posts when they notice they are being targeted for it?

furthermore, why should a light need as good weaponry as the other classes?
i would say light is supposed to be support, so why would they need to have the same guns as a bodytype that's supposed to be at the frontlines at all time?

You just joined the forum like a week ago, I've been here since March. You have missed A LOT of the ideas and topics people have come up with.

Things I can remember:

- You got guys suggesting that you should be able to hang from objects and crawl and hide inside them, primarily to boost the usability of Lights.
- People suggesting being able to dual wield pistols, to boost the firepower of Lights.
- people suggesting that Heavy weapons should be penalized with slower turning, effectively handicapping Heavies.
- And even someone who was pretentious enough to suggest a Light-only gamemode - http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1087741-either-different-gametypes-or-dedicated-servers-for-console-already/page__p__15852919&#entry15852919

I've seen much more than this also, either suggestions to "boost" the Light, or that the Heavy should be nerfed.

Some people on here just want to have their cake and eat it too, and get another cake to go for free.

They don't deserve every advantage. You just need to use the advantages they have. Use your advantage of being able to reach high vantage points, your superior speed and agility and your lack of hit points as an advantage. I saw a couple heavies and mediums taken down from a high vantage point by someone using an SMG in that new off screen footage. Lights, heavies, and mediums all seem fine from my perspective. The only thing I'm effy about is the the fact that lights have the smallest ability bar (and I plan on playing a medium medic/soldier).

Edit: Never mind the part about the off screen footage, it seems I was wrong. But my point still stands.

It really comes down if the speed and effective use of the SMART will be worth it. As compared to bigger guns, HP, and ability bar. Lights just need to be fast enough to be effective.

Victory through superior firepower.