[luis dejesus]

I hope everyone can be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, you have to express them in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts

So Bethesda's policy is to start a topic for PC/PS3 users to complain and do nothing?
I really love TES series, but Bethesda has gone too far this time.

[MatthewJontully]

So Bethesda's policy is to start a topic for PC/PS3 users to complain and do nothing?
I really love TES series, but Bethesda has gone too far this time.

Bethesda didn't start this topic, the moderators are just trying to keep everything condensed into one topic to prevent the whole forum becoming spam ridden with countless repetitive posts.

Edit: On the other hand, this topic is filled with countless repetitive posts, though things have calmed down.

[jess hughes]

Bethesda didn't start this topic, the moderators are just trying to keep everything condensed into one topic to prevent the whole forum becoming spam ridden with countless repetitive posts.

Edit: On the other hand, this topic is filled with countless repetitive posts, though things have calmed down.

I said Bethesda has gone too far because it hasn't prepared the new DLC for PC/PS3.
It doesn't matter whether Bethesda start this topic or not, my friend.

[Charlie Ramsden]

So Bethesda's policy is to start a topic for PC/PS3 users to complain and do nothing?
I really love TES series, but Bethesda has gone too far this time.

*sigh* Really? That is your interpretation? Next time, just PM the moderator and ask for clarification, rather than trying to make drama out of a normal post. We sympathize to some degree that people are anxious to get their hands on this DLC, but honestly folks... it's a game. The lack of patience and perspective and the constant repetitive churning in this sequence of threads has helped pretty much no one and basically the same 50-60% just come in here and try to churn up drama over nothing. Let me repeat - it's a game DLC. If Bethesda were withholding the secret for world-wide peace and harmony, with a solution for world hunger thrown in, I could understand the ire. Game DLC, general entertainment that you are impatient for? Not so much.

[Rachel Cafferty]

*sigh* Really? That is your interpretation? Next time, just PM the moderator and ask for clarification, rather than trying to make drama out of a normal post. We sympathize to some degree that people are anxious to get their hands on this DLC, but honestly folks... it's a game. The lack of patience and perspective and the constant repetitive churning in this sequence of threads has helped pretty much no one and basically the same 50-60% just come in here and try to churn up drama over nothing. Let me repeat - it's a game DLC. If Bethesda were withholding the secret for world-wide peace and harmony, with a solution for world hunger thrown in, I could understand the ire. Game DLC, general entertainment that you are impatient for? Not so much.

Thank you, sir.

[Christie Mitchell]

*sigh* Really? That is your interpretation? Next time, just PM the moderator and ask for clarification, rather than trying to make drama out of a normal post. We sympathize to some degree that people are anxious to get their hands on this DLC, but honestly folks... it's a game. The lack of patience and perspective and the constant repetitive churning in this sequence of threads has helped pretty much no one and basically the same 50-60% just come in here and try to churn up drama over nothing. Let me repeat - it's a game DLC. If Bethesda were withholding the secret for world-wide peace and harmony, with a solution for world hunger thrown in, I could understand the ire. Game DLC, general entertainment that you are impatient for? Not so much.

Man you are rational. However, fans are called fans because they are fanatic.
If I were not a TES fan, I could just ignore whatever involved with TES, right?
I could do that if you or Bethesda want me to.

Edit:
All I learned here is that moderators don't represent Bethesda, and Bethesda doesn't care about what I complained here. Then what am I wasting time here for? I will just keep away from this thread. Thanks.

[Janeth Valenzuela Castelo]

*sigh* Really? That is your interpretation? Next time, just PM the moderator and ask for clarification, rather than trying to make drama out of a normal post. We sympathize to some degree that people are anxious to get their hands on this DLC, but honestly folks... it's a game. The lack of patience and perspective and the constant repetitive churning in this sequence of threads has helped pretty much no one and basically the same 50-60% just come in here and try to churn up drama over nothing. Let me repeat - it's a game DLC. If Bethesda were withholding the secret for world-wide peace and harmony, with a solution for world hunger thrown in, I could understand the ire. Game DLC, general entertainment that you are impatient for? Not so much.

Well, I'm not bethesda, but even I can solve world wide hunger. Peace and harmony... completely different though. But you're right the same people in all 18 threads post over and over again. Quite boring. I'd lock the topic and make a stickied announcement myself, but y'all do what you think is best. I'm excited for the DLC myself, can't wait.

[Charles Weber]

ive played skyrim since the game came out...
but suddenly, im ashamed to say this... but...
i lost the urge to play...
RELEASE THE DLC OR PATCH BETHESDA us ps3 users r used to the bugs... just release it or ill play something else cuz i seriously have like 10 games i havent even touched...

[Kim Kay]

*sigh* Really? That is your interpretation? Next time, just PM the moderator and ask for clarification, rather than trying to make drama out of a normal post. We sympathize to some degree that people are anxious to get their hands on this DLC, but honestly folks... it's a game. The lack of patience and perspective and the constant repetitive churning in this sequence of threads has helped pretty much no one and basically the same 50-60% just come in here and try to churn up drama over nothing. Let me repeat - it's a game DLC. If Bethesda were withholding the secret for world-wide peace and harmony, with a solution for world hunger thrown in, I could understand the ire. Game DLC, general entertainment that you are impatient for? Not so much.

I'd just like to take a minute to point out the irony of what you're saying, I do not mean any disrespect, but you are complaining about people coming here and posting the same things over and over, yet you yourself keep posting "It's game dlc, quit over reacting, grow some patience." I've taken the liberty of paraphrasing, but that's the jist of all I've seen you say in the past 2-3 threads regarding this topic. I'm not flaming you, I'm not trying to troll you, I'm not trying to start drama, I'm just pointing out what I see as a double standard.

With that said, I do agree with you in so far as that if people are really being upset about the plain fact that they have to wait a little bit to get their hands on some DLC, they're in serious need of a reality check, however I don't think that's what the majority of people are upset about, even if they word it poorly, I think what most people here are upset about is the fact that we're being treated like we don't even matter, we're having to jump through hoops and metaphorically scream at the top of our lungs to get as little as "We have not announced it for any other platform." "Nothing has been announced about it." When all "we" are asking for is a simple confirmation that we're actually going to see it on our platforms at all.
I personally am sure we are going to, but this is what timed exclusivity deals do to dedicated and vocal fans when they don't get the DLC released for their platform the day the deal runs out, it makes them paranoid.

I just hope Bethesda gets their act together with DLC2 and has everything organized to roll out as soon as the 30 days ends so this fanatical uproar doesn't have to happen again.

[Sasha Brown]

I think what most people here are upset about is the fact that we're being treated like we don't even matter, we're having to jump through hoops and metaphorically scream at the top of our lungs to get as little as "We have not announced it for any other platform." "Nothing has been announced about it." When all "we" are asking for is a simple confirmation that we're actually going to see it on our platforms at all.
I personally am sure we are going to, but this is what timed exclusivity deals do to dedicated and vocal fans when they don't get the DLC released for their platform the day the deal runs out, it makes them paranoid.

I just hope Bethesda gets their act together with DLC2 and has everything organized to roll out as soon as the 30 days ends so this fanatical uproar doesn't have to happen again.

Errr - why would we think we matter? Consumers matter how? What an empty threat it is to say on one hand "we are rabid for this product" and on the other "treat us with respect or we won't buy it."

Why would you think it is not going to be released for other platforms? That makes no sense - they are in this to make money.

Just looking at the mods forum is enough to know why it hasn't been released. Too many bugs on the PC platform that will be exacertbated by mods added after dawnguard. We will get it once the game breaking ones are addressed - and then only to a point.

This has been the most bugged game released so far - that is the hold up. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[!beef]

Hasn't anyone thought that it's logical that having "Dawnguard Quests Completed" stats on a non-dawnguard game was a bug? It was probably unintended behaviour in 1.6 that's been corrected with 1.7.

And that looks very promising

Yes the Dawnguard quest completed status is a bug...I had it saying that on my 360 before I bought Dawnguard.

[ladyflames]

I felt like the lack of information given to PC and PS3 players was almost a middle finger to the most loyal fans on both platforms.
And once again, since the Elder Scrolls used to be mostly developed for PC players in contrast to other platforms, it does say a lot about what a little money can do to sully the reputation it once had with its PC gaming franchise.

[STEVI INQUE]

*sigh* Really? That is your interpretation? Next time, just PM the moderator and ask for clarification, rather than trying to make drama out of a normal post. We sympathize to some degree that people are anxious to get their hands on this DLC, but honestly folks... it's a game. The lack of patience and perspective and the constant repetitive churning in this sequence of threads has helped pretty much no one and basically the same 50-60% just come in here and try to churn up drama over nothing. Let me repeat - it's a game DLC. If Bethesda were withholding the secret for world-wide peace and harmony, with a solution for world hunger thrown in, I could understand the ire. Game DLC, general entertainment that you are impatient for? Not so much.

Damn, Leydenne is gonna double up the city guard with this verbal arrow to the knee pwnage!

[Amy Cooper]

*sigh* Really? That is your interpretation? Next time, just PM the moderator and ask for clarification, rather than trying to make drama out of a normal post. We sympathize to some degree that people are anxious to get their hands on this DLC, but honestly folks... it's a game. The lack of patience and perspective and the constant repetitive churning in this sequence of threads has helped pretty much no one and basically the same 50-60% just come in here and try to churn up drama over nothing. Let me repeat - it's a game DLC. If Bethesda were withholding the secret for world-wide peace and harmony, with a solution for world hunger thrown in, I could understand the ire. Game DLC, general entertainment that you are impatient for? Not so much.

This. +1
I cannot believe there are 18 threads with an average of 200 posts about this. How can you go round in this circle so much?
How can you get this upset about it?

You should be thankful for the fact that you are in a position to complain about something that you appear to think that you "entitled" to. Move on - do something else, get some fresh air, play another game...

[Nikki Lawrence]

So what do we think all? Any news coming later today?

[Yonah]

Please tell me PS3 players aren't going to buy this DLC...don't support this crap from Beth anymore.

[Kat Stewart]

Please tell me PS3 players aren't going to buy this DLC...don't support this crap from Beth anymore.

PS3 waiting nearly a year for Fallout 3 DLC. It's only been a month so far for Dawnguard. This whole thing with having to wait for Dawnguard is not that bad. PS3 players still bought Fallout 3 DLC and were more anticipated to buy it rather than complain.

[Alan Whiston]

You should be thankful for the fact that you are in a position to complain about something that you appear to think that you "entitled" to.

We are all entitled to it.

Bethesda said before Skyrim was released that Microsoft had exclusivity for 30 days for the first two DLCs. That indicates that the DLCs will go to the other consoles just at a later date. It is not an Xbox exclusive, it is a timed Xbox exclusive. After Bethesda released that information, they became obligated to provide the DLC for all three consoles. No, Bethesda has no legal obligation to provide the DLC, but because they told consumers they would, it would be wrong for them to back out of it. Bait and switch tactics are anything but moral.

If they hadn't let this news out before Skyrim was released it would be a different story. But I bought the game on the PS3 (and later on the PC) knowing that I would eventually get extra content later on. If I was told that Xbox would be the only console getting the DLC, I would have bought it on the 360 instead. Since I was not told that, I have every right to have the opportunity to purchase the DLC on both of my consoles. You can't tell everyone the DLCs will come to their platform, let them buy it for whichever system, and then tell them, "Oh, never mind. It's only coming out on the Xbox. You will have to buy another copy of the game, possibly a new system, and the DLC in order to play it." Thankfully Bethesda is not doing that because they are not that inconsiderate.

I've spent $120 on this game and you can be sure that I am entitled to pay another $40 to get the DLC on both of my systems if I choose to do that.

EDIT: Just to make sure it's clear, I am in no way bashing Bethesda. Now that they've given us notice, I think they are doing their best to treat consumers right when it comes to the DLC. I'm just addressing the people who keep saying that everyone who is asking for the DLC is self-entitled.

[CHARLODDE]

While I don't mind the wait for Dawnguard on the pc.. I too feel a bit annoyed, shunned, and betrayed by Bethesda in a nerdy sort of way. I mean, TES would NOT be where it is today without the PC gamers.. PC gamers purchased Arena and Daggerfall and thrust the TES universe to success. I just figured if any one got silly exclusive rights, the PC'ers deserve it the most for being there from the beginning. Money always wins in the end. I'm unhappy about this situation but in the end, they'll still get my money for Dawnguard.. they had me since Daggerfall. Money always wins.. and I hate that fact about life nowadays.

[teeny]

I have been waiting...and i will buy dawnguard as soon as it comes out...because i want the company to be able to make many more games/dlcs in the future.

[Lloyd Muldowney]

We are all entitled to it.

I've spent $120 on this game and you can be sure that I am entitled to pay another $40 to get the DLC on both of my systems if I choose to do that.

EDIT: Just to make sure it's clear, I am in no way bashing Bethesda. Now that they've given us notice, I think they are doing their best to treat consumers right when it comes to the DLC. I'm just addressing the people who keep saying that everyone who is asking for the DLC is self-entitled.

You seem to be confused about what you mean by entitlement here -
We are NOT entitled to the DLC in and of itself; we ARE entitled to buy it - should we choose to.
I believe this is what you meant.

No one is entitled to this DLC or to anything else from Bethesda simply because they have Skyrim.

[Emma Louise Adams]

We are all entitled to it.

No, you aren't. Nor am I.

I've spent $120 on this game and you can be sure that I am entitled to pay another $40 to get the DLC on both of my systems if I choose to do that.

You are more then welcome to pay $40 for the DLC twice over... if they release it. You made the mistake of thinking like a consumer when you read the "30 day exclusive". From a legal standpoint, it literally means 30 day exclusive. Nothing more or beyond that in any way. In no way is Bethesda required nor hinted at the DLC being released on PC or PS3. It was people like you who assumed that.

I for one do hope it comes to PC, and if they did say it wasnt, I would be a bit angry, but at the end of the day, they have the final word about what does or does not happen.

If what you people are doing is being patient, then I must be a damn saint.

[Oceavision]

You seem to be confused about what you mean by entitlement here -
We are NOT entitled to the DLC in and of itself; we ARE entitled to buy it - should we choose to.
I believe this is what you meant.

No one is entitled to this DLC or to anything else from Bethesda simply because they have Skyrim.

I said in my post "I have every right to have the opportunity to purchase the DLC on both of my consoles." I didn't say it every time I mentioned the word "entitlement" because that is just repetitive. lol

Also, I don't want you to think I was targeting you in particular. I just saw the word entitlement for the 500th time in this forum and I decided to finally say something.

You made the mistake of thinking like a consumer when you read the "30 day exclusive". From a legal standpoint, it literally means 30 day exclusive. Nothing more or beyond that in any way. In no way is Bethesda required nor hinted at the DLC being released on PC or PS3. It was people like you who assumed that.

Thinking like a consumer? I am a consumer. Bethesda released this information to their consumers. How else am I supposed to take it? It isn't an assumption. When Bethesda said "30 day exclusive" that is exactly what they meant. The term "exclusive" was prefaced with the phrase "30 day" for a reason. Meaning, they are contractually bound to withhold the DLC from non-Xbox users for 30 days. They heavily implied, if not ensured, that other platforms would get it. If they are not going to release it for other platforms, it isn't a 30 day exclusive. It's just an exclusive. I'm not saying they were obligated to release it the day the exclusivity period ended. I'm saying that they are obligated to release it for the other systems at some point.

EDIT: They do not legally have to provide everyone the opportunity to purchase the DLC on their own platforms, but they are morally obligated to do so. Otherwise the DLC is just part of a bait and switch tactic to scam PC and PS3 users. As I said earlier, thankfully this isn't true because Bethesda does have more integrity than that.

[Bigze Stacks]

I dont think anyone should be suggesting to not buy...or to buy. its our own decision. whatever happens...happens. So be it!

[Lil Miss]

and btw....it is really easy for a 360 user, who has dawnguard, to say to a pc/ps3 user..."dont go out and buy dawnguard...teach beth a lesson." Hypocritical?? Hello????