please elaborate.

Word, although so was Fallout 3.

I mean I pretty much expected like 1-2 months before most of the bugs and stuff were fixed.

Once it hits like 2.5+ months, then I may say, "hey, this is longer than I expected."

But saying so in this thread where many are waiting for a patch just so they can play the game only serves as flamebait.


Please don't accuse folks of perpetuating myths. It is a fact that many, many people are playing this game without too many problems at all. That doesn't however help folks who have games which are very messed up. You took the bait from above and responded instead of reporting. Next time report instead of responding.

Did you spend 75 hours just shooting things? I have over 100 mods installed just to fix quest and conversation bugs.

I think the reason people dont see the bugs is that they have avoided the hardware and OS related bugs(lucky them). and failed to notice the plot/quest/conversation bugs that are there but dont brake the game.

The release of the big patch is on par for the timing of Fallout 3. I dont like the industry standard of releasing then fixing (does not win you points on internal IT projects at work)

This game is still amazing and I know those that get it for Christmas will be happy and have avoided most of the issues. (OS and driver ones that have been around since Oblivion not withstanding.)

*sigh*

Some people experience few major glitches when playing through the game -> Does not support notion that the game should work similarly well for all users unless they are doing something. The poster you responded to did not actually say or imply this, but I can see how it may have felt like they were rubbing it in a little.

Some people (considering this is a support forum this is likely the majority of people on the board) encounter numerous significant errors with some being completely unable to run the game-> Does not support blanket statement that the game is a horrendously broken mess. A qualified version of this statement "The game is a horrendously broken mess for many of the users here" would be more accurate.

Nobody here can honestly claim to be able to make general statements or definitive declarations regarding the games overall stability or playability for a statistically significant number of users. All we can do is describe our experiences and perhaps the experiences of a relatively few other people. Whether these experiences are fair or poor bears no wieght in claims regarding the average or normal user experience.

The game has quite a few bugs- many of which do make one wonder how they might have escaped any actual pre-launch testing. It is possible to play through the game without encountering any (or at least most) of these problems though. Whether or not that is the case appears to be a combination of luck and computer hardware/software configuration. While I do not take issue at someone describing the game as a horrendous mess, I do have to take issue with the idea that it might not be for many users being called a myth. There is no conspiracy to perpetuate some fabricated story that some people are playing and enjoying the game without serious issues (perhaps though they have simply ignored or failed to notice some of the more common ones.) The fact that someone else (many people even) are enjoying the game and failing to find the same faults you have in no way deminishes the real need for fixes. You do not have to feel threatened by those kind of statements- as much as they do often smell of flaimbait.

Also- posting how great the game is working for you within the support forums is a little too much like an obvious troll attempt. Maybe you feel the need to defend the game you have enjoyed, but how does posting how nearly flawless your experience has been serve any positive purpose in a forum dedicated to reporting and assisting with game issues. That is like pulling up alongside someone trying to fix their car on the side of the road and, upon noticing you drive the same make and model, saying "Mine works great! Bye!"

Quick update: Doesn't look like it'll be going up on Steam today. As soon as it does, we'll make sure to let you all know.

I never expected that...

Meh what I didn't expect was to be informed it wouldn't be up today this early. I was kind of expecting it closer to 10 pm EDT or something.

I am hoping though this patch is as large/comprehensive as it seems like it is going to be. That is to say that the long dev time, testing time, and delay in uploading make sense if it is a very significant and large patch. If the changelog ends up being "fixed cowboy repeater reload animation, adressed save game corruption" and that's it- that'll be a little bit of a let down right?

Thanks for the update!

Did Valve say that it would be out today? Because that's subject to Valve-time.

It's pretty darn extensive

I appreciate the update, but do you have a rough idea of when the patch should be up?

Only bug I've encountered so-far is the faction issue. However, this is a game breaker for me. If they don't fix this then I'll probably feed the game to my pet balrog!

Might seem like a lot to ask, but could you just give us the change log/patch notes in advance?

Frankly speaking, I wasn't all that surprised by the quality of the game given that it was made by Obsidian and all previous games using this engine (or its derivatives) have required a couple of months to get sorted out, but where NV fails is in the area of polish. Conversation bugs, quest bugs, crashing and performance can be worked out in updates, and in all fairness, Bethesda (and I assume Obsidian to some degree) seem to have been making an effort to make things right. This does not address the area of polish, however. I can't even begin to count the times I've looked up at a rock and been able to see right through the bottom of it, or been able to look through the seams in the pavement to see open space where there should be nothing but ground. These things were present in previous games, but not in such alarming frequencies. These are just examples of a much more serious problem.
I applaud Bethesda for their efforts and for continuing to keep us updated, even if their updates do not provide any in-depth information. It will depend on how well they continue to support the game after this patch, should it need further support, that will separate them from the pariahs of the game-developing world.

The notes will be released when the update goes up.

The update should be live for PS3 (EU) as of now, no? :hubbahubba:

WHEN is it getting on steam

Do i have to call steam support and rant to them .. becouse am a level 14 norwegian with nerd rage... ill rant for 10 min and then tell about my broken quests.. then cry

My guess on that is tomorrow (though I am unsure how it managed to get through SCEE certification and scheduling faster than Steam could schedule to push it live).

Why such a delay? It can't be a Steam-side issue.

In the time between when the patch was announced and now, Super Meat Boy on Steam has been updated THREE times - each time announced on Twitter and then delivered on Steam hours later.

This is surely a deliberate release delay to try to harmonise the patch times between Steam and the consoles.

Still got "Beyond The Beef" hanging there in my quest list, guys. Hurry up already

Gstaff, on 09 December 2010 - 05:03 PM, said:

Quick update: Doesn't look like it'll be going up on Steam today. As soon as it does, we'll make sure to let you all know.



WTF ?!?! I thought this was a patch not a healthcare overhaul bill.

I don't think Steam takes that long normally. I'm guessing during the cert process some more bugs were found like the last time we got a patch and you couldn't kill any creatures (they would just be unconscious)

Or it has something to do with the consoles and they are just letting steam take the heat (get it? Heat? steam?)

No.