Its not dying, thats a myth. The hardware companies that engineer PC components and other technology have budgets that range into the $1+ billion dollar range even on small projects that provide less contribution margin initially when composed into the sales mix of the company. They do this because of the massive demand for their products. Fortune 500 companies like Nvidia would go out of business if not for the massive demand of their product mix, even in a down economy technology remains recession proof. One of the reasons these companies can manage to remain successful is because of their low fixed costs in comparison to variable expenses they have, the cost per unit is very low and the price they sell it for is very high. Economically, demand has remained constant for most hardware throughout the last 20 years, so the elasticity of demand is very low when it comes to technology, which basically means that a change in sales price has very little influence over the quantity demanded.

When you digest all that information if basically comes down to one thing, people are buying more PC's than they're buying consoles, even if said poeple don't game on the PC's they buy they still buy them anyway.

PC gaming was "dying" like five years ago, not anymore.
Wake up and welcome to the Steam ERA. PC gaming has been growing fast the past few years.
I don't think the same can be said about console gaming.

PC gaming can't die. Since its the pinnacle of technology,

It's the only gaming system that can bring innovation and reinvent itself when a new technology comes.


It is so superior to console, that in multilayer they never allow console players to join the PC community.

Its really not that tiny at all.

Plus, it has bigger margine, the likes of steam cut out the need to ship so many discs, cutting publishing costs. For someone like Beth who publish their own games, thats a massive bonus. Thus why EA so it in their wisdom to create origin, less middleman and they didnt have to abide by steams terms.

Well, IIRC they actually tested this once, I think with a battlefield game. Since it was an FPS, the results were predictable due to the mouse being vastly superior for aiming than console controllers.

Diablo 3, Guild wars 2, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Starcraft 2, HL3... Dying? I think not.

Nope. In terms of market size, console gaming has by far outstripped the PC. In fact the only market left to it is to start eating into the PC market, which considering the closing technological gap, cheaper cost and greater ease of use, its kinda only a matter of time. The death knell comes when steam starts catering to consoles, mark my words. Not so long ago it was a case of "Consoles MP over the internet? PAHAHAHA" and now look.

This assumes that Apple dont decide to gatecrash the party anyhoo...

Console has two great advantages. It's universal and plug & play.

The fact that it's universal means consumers don't have to worry about compatibility or performance. They know if they buy the game for their console, it will work. No driver installation, no system requirements, no OS to worry about. It also means programmers and software engineers only need to keep one system in mind. That's why a lot of developers limit themselves to consoles. It's easier to code a game for it and especially to debug it. On top of that the market is bigger. 1+1 = 2.

However, there is, and has been for a long time, a sustained (and growing, mind you) crowd of PC gamers, including myself. They play PC because the PC is the technically vastly superior platform and they like the improved graphics PCs can put out. On top of that, a lot of people (especially the TES fanbase) like to mod and tweak their games to make it even more suited for their own playstyle and preferences.

So no, PC gaming isn't dying and won't die for decades probably. As long as there are many people like me that enjoy the benefits PC gaming brings with it, there will be a viable market for a lot of developers. But consoles will always be a bigger market and have more games, because it's the most profitable for developers and publishers.

PC gaming isn't dying, WOW on the other hand is.

Isn't "the market" in question just the highstreet outlets, though? I thought that once online stores and digital sales were factored in, the picture was rather different.

...But yet, generates enough revenue in order to keep AMD and nVidia deleloping ever more insane video hardware year after year. Higher transistor counts, higher clock speeds, smaller process tech... it all trickles down to fantastic economy of scale for y'all who like your 360s and PS3s.

I mean, jesus christ, whenever M$ FINALLY comes out with a real 1080p console (and they're too butthurt over HD-DVD losing to Blu-Ray to do it without significant outside pressure), the graphics tech will already be 3 to 4 years old and manufacturable on 32 nm process or so.

Console gamers have been eating PC gamers' cold leftovers for a long time now, and mistaking it for a gourmet meal.

Because the world has turned into quantity over quality.

Look at humans.
Food.
Music.

List goes on...

DEATH TO CONSOLES!

Where are the options: "PC Gaming is no where near dead, Skyrim beat STEAM sales records" "PC gaming has moved to a more itunes like environment (STEAM)".

This poll is flawed.

:rofl: Too true. They should bear in mind though Sony learned their lesson on this YEARS ago when they lost out to VHS...

LoL has more than 10,5 million players?

Edit: just checked it out and these are LoL's numbers:

Every day, over 1.4 million players log on to play League of Legends
There are over 15 million registered accounts
Between NA and EU servers, peak concurrency has reached 500,000 players
Players spend an aggregate total of 3.7 million hours in-game every day
The official League of Legends site gets 6 million hits a day
League of Legends YouTube videos have nearly 100 million views
Over 1,690,000 viewers tuned into the online broadcast of the League of Legends Season One Championship, with concurrent viewership peaking at over 210,000

So I guess you're right

PC gaming drives Computer Hardware sales, it is this very reason PC gaming will never die.

I forgot about that one.

Though, I doubt it will stay running as long as every other major PC exclusive MMO.

I never hear good things about DCUO.

The full cycle of the PC gaming enthusiast:

Every thread that isn't about PC gaming dying: "Why do nobody respect PC gamers anymore/Every game is a shoddy console port/We don't get good games anymore/This doesn't compare to what we were playing 10 years ago/The PC version svckS, fix it!".

In the thread about the decline of PC gaming: "LOL PC gaming is more than fine, ask Gabe!".


Make up your mind people.

Takes a total muppet to think that pc gaming is dying (I mean wtf lol?).. Certain people have been saying funny stuff like that since the beginning of 2000s, which is totally absurd. PC is always technologically ahead of the consoles and there will always be customers to buy new gpus, new processors etc to have top notch computers and those same people will always buy games for pc.
Gaming has always been a better experience in overall (customization, graphics cannot even be compared etc) except sports games like Fifa and Nhl, on PC. I own ps3 and xbox too and gave up playing ps3 like 2 years ago when the pixelated graphics started to annoy me, on xbox I only play Fifa because it`s simply not made for pc.
For somebody to claim that pc gaming is dying makes me laugh.. Come on, only because you prefer consoles these days doesn`t mean everybody else does.

If console players think PC gaming is dying then so be it, let them. I will enjoy my Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, SW:ToR, Tera Online and other badass games and you can keep your [censored] Battlefields and Medals of Honor.

PC Gaming is alive and well. Only reason people play games on consoles is because they don't know what computers are capable of. So yes, it's a myth. PC Gaming will if anything die AFTER console gaming does.

You should add this to the poll:
Complex DRM software that can cause a lot of problems making legitimate users give up on the software.
I see it all the time!

Diablo 3 will probably come to console ^^

pc gaming cannot die, just look at the mmorpg market

if the big companys decide to stop publishing games for pc, it will be indi devs and studios which will get the money from pc gamers, if there is profit there will always be seller

now if you talk about consols thats another story since they highly depend on the big hardware publisher sony/microsoft

before pc gaming is dead the consol market will collapse due to high costs

LOL. That'll just increase PC popularity due to the fact that you can't be "good" using a gamepad, oh and the item-market.