That's just pure speculation, nothing has been confirmed. But just for the sake of argument, let's suppose it does. It will be wonderfull to control the characters accurately with a gamepad....not.

A decline of game quality =/= the decline of PC gaming. It's just a fact that many developers try to create games for all major platforms, and in doing so limiting themselves to console standards. That's disappointing, even if complaints about it may be exaggerated, but it doesn't mean PC gaming is declining or dying at all. I can't see consoles ever killing off PC gaming until they're genuinely better technology for playing games on, and they're way behind PC right now by that standard.

I'd add that I don't think game quality is actually declining, but rather lagging a bit and not improving as fast as it could.

nah, its a lifestyle.

Wow they broke stream sales record, you mean that thing that 2% of the population knows about. That's amazing.

for me PC gaming died this year!
brought a new PC a few months back trying to give PC gaming a chance again, and i have a good graphics card, good cooling, lots of ram,
and all ive done on the PC is try to fix things constantly and always come across more damn problems!
id rather put a game in a console and play it for hours, instead of wasting hours and hours and hours and hours and hours trying to play the same game with nothing more than better graphics and game breaking mods...

that's my experience of PC gaming anyway, and im done with it!

Yeah I read an article that put a console pro team against a pc pro team and the console team got owned so large that they put average pc gamers in to see what would happen: the average gamers owned the console pros too. It's the controller: it svcks.

I couldn't comment fully, as I don't know the numbers. But I would believe that the combined console market is much larger than the PC. But this is just a reflection on the shift and rise of casual gaming, which consoles play a huge role in. Games have been moved form bedrooms or PC's in studies or on desks, to the lounge and main house holds TV screen. I play on a 360, and much prefer playing games while sitting on a comfortable sofa, and with a big TV. That's just me tho.

This is my first post on the forum, currently playing Fallout. Played Morrowind years ago on the Xbox. Hoping to get Skyrim for Christmas, really looking forward to it.

So you basically say that you have no PC skills and that's why you use a console.

Yup, the mouse is the easy button for fps. Derps like it easy.

I don't know; playing Diablo 1 on PS1 was easy enough. It didn't use a mouse-like interface you controlled with the anologue stick; it played more like a typical 3rd person action RPG.

I wonder how long it's gonna take before this thread is gonna be closed due to 'console war'

The #1 reason people still game on pc.. Superiority complex.

Limiting yourself to playing with a controller doesn't make you a pr0 and certainly doesn't make the game any harder, only tedious to play. It is your fault you play with an inferior gaming device. I think you're just jelly that you are stuck with a console.

The problem with this kind of debate it's that it's ultimately just partisan talk.

PC gaming isn't "dying", but the relevance of the PC gaming platform in the hardcoe game market is fading. When games like TES generate 80%+ (sink that number in your brain, and ponder it) on FRIGGIN CONSOLES, you know something is off.

Budgets for videogames skyrocketed. In a world where developing Skyrim costs hundreds of times as much as what developing Daggerfall probably did, the PC gaming community, for a variety of reasons - from piracy to "who pays games 60$ lol" to Steam sales to size - doesn't sustain a market anymore.

The Witcher 2, the biggest PC exclusive of the year (barring Blizzard games that still didn't sell much more in the West), reached one million sales in six months. Uncharted 3 and Gears of War 3, two big console exclusive, shipped almost 4 million units EACH in the first WEEK.

We're not talking about change. The difference in income is insane. And those sales are full price.


I like PC gaming as much as everyone else, but you can't be blind to this. TODAY, the things who make money on PC are 1) MMO and 2) Facebook games. Like it or not, we've come to this.

inb4 the inevitable lock

The trolling and flamebaiting in this thread is astounding. That the mods have not closed it yet even more so.

Nope, the number 1 reason it that it's simply better and more versatile. How does my comment show I have a superiority complex? Just because I point out that someone svck with a computer and instead of learning stuff he takes the easy way out and buys a console?

PS: I have an XBOX myself so I tried to give it a chance. It's inferior in every way possible, period.

Everything except 'it's not dying'.

People must see this, as all PC gamers essentially will click the 'its not dying' for hope that game developers see this, and assume because of that, that pc gaming is not dying.

I'm sad, but it is dying.

Disagree. Alot of people download games illegal, but you have no idea how little the amount of people do this. Companies loose lots of money, but to say that they loose alot of milions is false.

Same as movies. Avater came out and hundres if not thousands downloaded it illegal from torrents, but the movie made so many millions that the pirates didnt even hurt ther profit at all.

Mouse and keyboard does indeed allow for quicker and easier target acquisition than a controller. However level the playing field and you'll see some interesting truths - a console gamer will adapt to mouse and keyboard faster than a PC gamer would to a controller.

PC gaming is not dying

so you better because you know your way around a pc... Right?

Agreed. People cannot denie the fact that the number of sales for console games as increased largely by the last 10 years.

I think console playing is dying. PS4 and XBOX720 will be released in like 2-3 years. Their prices will be ridicilously high 500-700€. Currently all the power has been svcked from XBOX and other consoles, and they are limiting the development of games.

There will be a middle ground between consoles and pc in the future. Consoles are too stupid, computers are too bothersome.