What a disappointment. : Fallout: New Vegas

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:11 am

Yes, a few knives, a knife spear, and a throwing version of said spear, a BAR, and a Police pistol which is a more detailed .32 from F3 basically.

By the Abandoned BoS Bunker.

a BAR huh? i love those things, should go well with the garand and be a good replacement for that ugly LMG. dont care much for the rest though.

how about other new things? im a big pack rat in TES and FO so id grab at least one of everything new to take back to vegas. how much is there? would i have to walk around over-encumbered the whole time or drag a body with me?

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:19 am

The BAR shoots .308, huh? I wish it shot ~~.50 cal like the real BAR.~~ nevermind, I thought there was a variant that shot .50 caliber. I guess, rather, 30.06 bullets. .308 is fine though.

I guess it would be too powerful then, though.

I dunno, judging from what I've read, its like Op:A from Fallout 3, and though I liked Op:A, the one thing I disliked was not being able to go back to the simulation. I guess the Sierra Madre is the same in that regard. But I do like the weapons, so hopefully an announcement for the PC and PS3 will be soon.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:32 pm

I liked the story a lot, and I usually do when it comes to Bethesda or Bioware games. The game play, while polished, just wasn't very fun for me. I'm not a big fan of the time trial, though killing the ghost people was pretty fun. The Saw meets Bioshock theme was entertaining.

I'd give the whole thing a 5/10. For everything I disliked there was something to enjoy.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:57 pm

I'm not disappointed at all. I haven't finished, but so far I'm enjoying Dead Money a lot.
I'm a slow, deliberate player -- the kind that reads all the terminals, picks every lock, explores every conversation, peers into every nook and cranny. I think this DLC is designed for players like me; if you plan to hurry through you'll have a bad experience like some of the guys who posted here. If you play like I do, you'll have a great time.
I'm guessing I'm about halfway through and my character is pretty well geared up, but if I'd depended on just being able to find stuff laying around I'd have been dead long ago. You have to pay attention (The guy who complained about the exploding collar above? You were warned, dude) -- if you do not collect holotapes & check monitors you will become seriously underequipped -- there's a lot of crafting and, er, dispensing.

It's a shame the DLC could not accommodate every play style; I totally understand why some of you guys are disappointed. Hopefully the next one will be more enjoyable for you.

I played the DLC like you did and I enjoyed it allot and I agree I think it's all from perspective of how you play.I think it could also depend on your exceptions, I really didn't like the theme going into , but I still enjoyed the DLC , I think the next one will be more interesting and it will probably involve the burned man and the Grand Canyon

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:16 am

... Yeah there is.
The new perks are not lvl 30 to lvl 34 perks.
Check the lower leveled perks when you level up.
There's one called Shining Armor or something which gives +5 DT towards energy weapons.
Around 7 new level up perks.

I know that. I meant there is not an achievement for getting to level 35. I must have just mistaken perks for achievements. Oops!

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:03 pm

well ive gotten alot futher in it, and i hav to say i lik it alot more than O:A, it does remind me of bioshock. The characters are interesting, the guns are pretty good, and i personally lik the enviroment (even tho the gas/air is anoying since it henders exploration (which so far is my only complaint)

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:47 pm

I just finished the DLC, and I was pretty disappointed with it.

Pros
-Good Loot that was also extremely valuable
-Interesting Companions
-New Weapons and Armor (not much in variaty though)
-Can't return (yes, when this becomes a pro, you have an issue)

Cons
-Linear story (much like O:A, except there are some minor decisions you can influence)
-Annoying Collar feature
-Large clouds of gas that not only make it hard to see, but do alot of damage to you (what makes it worse is that its hard to avoid in some areas)
-An interesting enemy turns out to be a boring and fustrating enemy that is extremely easy to kill
-Holograms are annoying, don't make sense (they can actually block you from moving if you run into them like a "normal" person would), and feel out of place
-Boring enviroment that is, oddly enough, filled with tons of traps designed to kill people (when there are very few people in the DLC that aren't hostile)

All in my opinion though. Obviously some will agree and disagree.

Hmm.

Pro's
Writing.
Characters.
Atmosphere.
Level design.
Difficulty.
Almost a weapon for each weapon class. (Explosives get that gas canister but they are like Bio-Gas from Point Lookout; limited.)
Ulysses info. :ahhh:
New toxic gas feature.
New chips exchange system.
Lengthy DLC. (It's [censored] huge! It took me 9 hours to complete (excluding smoke breaks, toilet visits and occasionally reading the forums for a minute or two.)

Con's
Can't return. (I liked roaming the streets in fear of the ghost people and the gas, what I hated about The Pitt was that I loved to fight the Trogs, but they didn't respawn which means I can only fight them once.)
The companions aren't permanent. (But I respect that, it's sad I couldn't bring DoGod back with me but I understand why I couldn't at the same time.
The exploration isn't rewarding enough. (Exploration is only good if there is good loot like uniques and stuff to find, if there isn't any, then exploration is pointless.)
Lengthy DLC. (While I like that it's long it also puts me off to complete it again, listen, in the wasteland I can do whatever I want to do, if I want to complete a quest, I can do so, if I just want to play Caravan, I can do so, if I just wants to kill stuff, I can do so, in Dead Money, I get clausterphobic, especially since I can't return once I've completed it. It means that I'm stuck in there for at least 6 hours.)

I know that. I meant there is not an achievement for getting to level 35. I must have just mistaken perks for achievements. Oops!

Ah, ok.

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:36 pm

Ulysses info. :ahhh:

Wha.... tell me more. NAO! :drool:

Or maybe via PM since this isn't the spoiler forum.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:02 am

It was a good dlc imo. I enjoyed the story, the atmosphere and characters were great.
Only issue I had was the difficulty of some parts, those collars are a piss take, and the holograms, dont get me started on those [censored] holograms
Also I dislike the ghost people, they were just annoying to fight, however all of this combined was great because I hate when a game makes something out to be dangerous then for gameplay reasons its not.
But by the end I was getting annoyed. I liked the dlc, and everything, trying to survive. But you are trapped in a harsh environment for hours. Thats the issue. This just went on a bit to long imo (gather everyone, then place them, then find them in the casino, then the vault. It would be great if the dlc was a bit shorter, I dont feel like replaying atm. I would reccoend it though, its good.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 am

What a surprise you have another bad thing to say about NV, which btw is almost 100% of your posts are about :rolleyes:

bigcrazewolf

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:34 pm

I think it's funny that there were people who complained that New Vegas wasn't difficult enough. Now, with Dead Money, we have some challenges (it is quite difficult) and people are complaining that it's too tough. I just think it's funny. That is all.

As to the topic, I am not at all disappointed. I am very much enjoying this DLC.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:51 am

I thought it was pretty bad. Plain and simple. But killing Elijah and trapping him at the end made up for the annoyance of almost getting blown countless times. So i guess I had a little fun.

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:46 pm

Being a PC user, I have no first hand experience of Dead Money. But from what I've read here, (pros & cons), and what I've seen in the offical releases, this DLC sounds like a remake of A:O. Which means when it comes out for PC I 'll get it. Play it ONCE. Then wait for the mods using Dead Money resources to come out.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:50 am

this DLC sounds like a remake of A:O...

heheh, "Anchorage:Operation"

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:59 am

...made up for the annoyance of almost getting blown countless times.

I hope you mean "blown up" instead of, well, what it looks like...

if not, you have a dirty mind... it's a video game!!

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:32 am

You don't capitalize the first word after a comma - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma

Wow. :rolleyes:

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:23 pm

Ok..Just before you all read on, this might contain spoilers. I'm new, so I don't know how to spoiler tag things yet. So, SPOILERS

Ok, I'm making an account because for the first time, in a long time I have been genuinely disappointed. I was counting down the days until this DLC was released, mocking my PC and PS3 friends about our exclusive DLC. So, I woke up quite happy to switch on my xbox and Download the Brand new DLC. I coughed up the ￡8(ish) required and set it on download. ( skip 10 mins....)

I load up Fallout New Vegas, excitedly waiting to embark on a new adventure, to explore and become immersed in a world I love so deeply. I load into my game and immediately set off to find the entrance to the new area. Bringing my "Kick-ass inventory" and Boone, just to complete my "Win combo". I head to the bunker and enter. The sign says the usual, like it did with the pitt. I continued and got knocked out by gas. At that point, I seen the pop ups. Boones returned to Novac. I was a little disappointed. But then remembered that their were three other followers in the DLC, so I decided to dismiss that complaint.

I wake up infront of some old man in a plain and dull environment, I listen to some hologram waffle on. ( This is were I started to lose faith. I listen to all dialogue, I experiment with every choice. But this, it bored me.) He tasks me with finding some people no problem says me, thinking I had all my awesome gear. I get control back and all I have is some pants rifle. I frowned, but continued. I fought my way paste two "Ghosts" which, took too many shots and was just plain boring and found my way to the police station.

Upon entering the station, my collar starts beeping, I have no clue whats happening, I run to a terminal, panic and wonder what I'm meant to do. *Boom*. Dead. ( Suffice to say, I was not impressed. )
Reloads, ran past he terminal, into the basemant. Becoming forever more annoyed at this mechanic.( Something which detracts from gameplay, forces me to keep to a path and just plain bores me? Good thinking Mr.Developer )

So, I'll skip some. I get the first follower, and my levels of disappointment are high, not beyond saving, but you have forever lost my faith.

The second follower, is in "Trap land" or as I now call it: "lets completely piss off any user ever land" with enough coins to afford one doctors bag, I decided to make the purchase ( Something which was wise...) And made my way through the area, (Light step perk made this very easy.) Having to disarm everything for the sake of my follower. This bored me. It was getting to the point where I was actually wondering if this wasn't some sick Joke. I get to the second guy. (Wounded, with low health and one stimpack ). Talk to him ( skipped dialogue, When someone as RPG mad as me skips dialogue...YEAH YOU DONE SOMETHING WRONG! ) After talking to him, he says theirs a shortcut back. Delighted at not having to fight through any dull environments and boring enemies, I followed. Only to be lead into the "Gas of fun"...I quickly lost the follower in the maze of streets and ended up dying from the gas. ( Yay...NOT ) Reload. I skip through his dialogue again and spend the next five minutes fighting my way through the same boring way which I came, to avoid going though the "Gas of stupid design choice". Needless to say, I was getting pretty annoyed.

Skip again....third follower. For this I'm not even going to explain it. I just ran, avoided everything and saved at every doorway. I rushed through, skipped her dialogue and rushed back. End of. ( Anger levels rising still.)

After collecting all the followers, the hologram man then told me I had to take each of the followers to a designated point, I took one look at my map, seen how far off it was and said No. I quit, reloaded a save a made outside of the DLC area and continued on playing the main game and exploring the "Fun, free-roaming" world with my "Cool kit".

END OF SPOILERS.

So, I can say this has been the worst purchase on DLC I have made and I am extremely disappointed. To any others having thoughts of purchasing this, do yourself a favour and don't. I'm already passing along the message to my PC and PS3 fans to pass this DLC up if and when it's released multi-platform.

TLDR version:

Waste of money. Do not get.

I had to discontinue after the beginning as I didn't want to see the spoilers. So I have to ask,

Was the main source of your disappointment that you couldn't bring Boone and you lost your weapons?

Thanks

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:34 am

Wow. :rolleyes:

Inorite.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:07 pm

I'm not disappointed at all. I haven't finished, but so far I'm enjoying Dead Money a lot.
I'm a slow, deliberate player -- the kind that reads all the terminals, picks every lock, explores every conversation, peers into every nook and cranny. I think this DLC is designed for players like me; if you plan to hurry through you'll have a bad experience like some of the guys who posted here. If you play like I do, you'll have a great time.
I'm guessing I'm about halfway through and my character is pretty well geared up, but if I'd depended on just being able to find stuff laying around I'd have been dead long ago. You have to pay attention (The guy who complained about the exploding collar above? You were warned, dude) -- if you do not collect holotapes & check monitors you will become seriously underequipped -- there's a lot of crafting and, er, dispensing.

It's a shame the DLC could not accommodate every play style; I totally understand why some of you guys are disappointed. Hopefully the next one will be more enjoyable for you.

This is what I suspected.

While I haven't played the DLC (and probably never will, I don't want the 5 extra levels), the things that are being pointed out as "flaws" give me pause. When I take in the comments of those that absolutely hate the DLC, I get a nagging suspicion that I'd disagree with them about everything in life including but not limited to the correct way to squeeze a tube of toothpaste. So of course I begin to question if their reviews would apply to me.

I guess it's moot since I'll never know for sure (again, not buying it) but it sure makes interesting reading!

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:50 pm

Heres a few tips for the very difficult dead money.

Take a melee/unarmed/speech/lockpick enemy. Guns and ammo are rare and difficult to find while melee weapons and unarmed weapons are common. I would also recommend sneak as there are loads of enemies, and little opportinities to get youre health back up. You have to buy stinpacks and food with special chips and often its better to sneak past enemies.
Those are a few tips to make the DLC not so frustrating and annoying

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:10 am

It's okay, folks. The only reason you WON'T like "Dead Money" is because:

1. You hate everything. (ie. everything)
2. You dwell on the past far too often. (OMG BETH F3 ROX WTF OBS FNV BLOWS)
3. You have a rhinoceros stuck in your butt. (I wouldn't be fond of anything that DIDN'T get the rhinoceros out either.)
4. You don't like Fallout games. (why are you reading this?)
5. You feel all challenges are game-breakers rather than.. I donno.. challenges. (gas clouds :cryvaultboy:)

"Dead Money" r kewl.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:55 pm

It's okay, folks. The only reason you WON'T like "Dead Money" is because:

1. You hate everything. (ie. everything)
2. You dwell on the past far too often. (OMG BETH F3 ROX WTF OBS FNV BLOWS)
3. You have a rhinoceros stuck in your butt. (I wouldn't be fond of anything that DIDN'T get the rhinoceros out either.)
4. You don't like Fallout games. (why are you reading this?)
5. You feel all challenges are game-breakers rather than.. I donno.. challenges. (gas clouds

)

"Dead Money" r kewl.

6. You don't like eating chocolate ice-cream for breakfast, dinner and supper every day for 2 weeks. /metaphor
(Listen, Dead Money is great, but it's art design is incredibly same-y. All streets and buildings look the same, I love it, but I'm sure some won't like that it starts to look very flat after an hour.)

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:07 am

When I finished Dead Money, I hated it so much. My current goal is to get my money back.

Spoiler

In the end of dead money, you get locked inside the vault, the game ends, and you're listening to Christine talk about how the Casino lives on after your death. I hate dead money so much, and unless somebody can tell me how I can go kick Elijah in the nuts, take a crap load of stuff back, and get out of the damn vault, I will proceed to try to get my money back. This was the worst DLC I've seen so far from Bethesda and Obsidian.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:38 am

When I finished Dead Money, I hated it so much. My current goal is to get my money back.

Spoiler

In the end of dead money, you get locked inside the vault, the game ends, and you're listening to Christine talk about how the Casino lives on after your death. I hate dead money so much, and unless somebody can tell me how I can go kick Elijah in the nuts, take a crap load of stuff back, and get out of the damn vault, I will proceed to try to get my money back. This was the worst DLC I've seen so far from Bethesda and Obsidian.

Well, maybe if you had read the first entry on the computer, you could've avoided that.

Spoiler

You would have known that activating Sinclair's personal account would lock you in. But, reading's just too hard, right?

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:03 pm

I wouldn't say its a disappointment as Dead Money is challenging and thats something that Obsidian probably designed when they created the DLC. I'm liking the light armor Critical perk and the +5 Level Cap.