In what alternate reality does complaining make you look 'cool'?

I'm sorry for your really devoted fan paranoia, but some of us have real issues here.

SERIOUSLY, what is up with all the people defending Bethesda? What kind fantasy word do these people live in (oh right, never mind) where a company can sell a broken product and somehow it's the cunsumers fault? This game has more issues than any game they made in the past and yes i've played their other games and yes I know how to rotate saves in order to avoid broken quests but some are unavoidable. I'm playing as a Nord warrior and the Companions quest broke so that pretty much ruins the game for me. 160 hours I'll never get back, until they feel like it's worth fixing.

I will say that this is THE BEST GAME I'VE EVER PLAYED, it's just too bad that broken quests and major bugs completely ruin it

I own oblivion and with the latest patch there is quite a few bugs and glitches that were just left in.
I highly doubt anything is on the fix, judging from their track record

dont worry i know you have issues. but people who create accounts on same day as patch comes out with stupid names and act like theve been playing game for ages are a joke.

im lucky i got the special xbox where the textures are fine, it does not lock up all the time, and the only dragon i saw tried to freeze me then flew off normaly, but as i said before if i do lock up while the textures look like a n64 game and the dragon is flying backwards ill report it.

So you think that big games should be expected to ship with numerous game-breaking bugs? That's interesting. I bet you're the type of consumer that game companies love. No matter what they sell you, you don't complain.

Actually, if I was really going to bet on something, I would bet that you haven't had any major issues with your copy of the game.

your over stating issues again demon boy, there are no game breaking issues before or since 1.2 just lots people making big posts on issue they already know about. every game that comes out will have some issue someone will be making big posts about, just go look at any games forum. if people are so worried about being able to kill their fire pet with fire, go play something else till they release patch for the issue.

Way to zing me with the "you'll buy anything" line. Who bought your copy, your parents?

Wow. You've got your head in the sand.

So you think that all of these people in forums describing game-breaking glitches and even the news stories that have broken on G4TV and other stations are all just in people's imaginations? You think it's just like any other game? Wake up dude.

Funny...

No I'm an advlt. Are you?

Just trying to figure out your logic is all. You claim I'll buy anything because I bought Skyrim. You bought Skyrim but aren't the type to buy just anything. Fallacy or just angry typing?

Stating the rediculously obvious fact that "game breaking" is something that renders the game unplayable and not fit throwing because you don't like something; what game breaking bug existed for the Xbox prior to 1.2?

Yes because we all know it would have sold less in a different part of the year. Im betting it would have sold just as well since it has a fanbase and had the hype (i personally prordered this way back in March)

I dont regret my purchase nothing that cant be fixed, its not the end of the world that there are issues that they are trying to fix. Its one thing if they werent but they are, people need to understand that its not an easy thing to do and pinpoint what causes every little bug.

you mean the bug with resistances that has already been acknowleged but does not break the game. out of intrest demon are you unable to load the game or play the game due to reistances not working, has a flying backwards dragon effected you on any quest your doing ? sorry for delay but i was playing the broken game you like to keep mentioning.

Not to mention I dont consider a bug to be 'game breaking' unless its affecting all copies. If its only affecting some users I consider that an inconvienence than anything. Its unfortunate that issues are hitting people but my game copy is no different than another. I know they will fix major issues soon enough.

Ok you implied that the amount of bugs in this game is normal and that we should expect it to be that way. As such, I said that developers must like you because they can sell you anything and you won't complain. The key is that I said they can sell you anything. I didn't say you would buy anything.

The point is that neither of us knew that the game would be ridden with bugs. Upon discovering that it is, my response is to be upset. Your response, apparently, is to smile and take it. Of course in all liklihood, you are not experiencing these issues with your copy of the game. That's probably the reason you're in here making inane, useless comments in a subforum that is actually created for the purpose of exposing and addressing technical problems.

Your definition of "broken" is totally absurd. So you think that as long as you can actually turn on the game and move the character around the screen, everything is just fine? Thanks for clearing that up! Here I was thinking that the fact that all of the resistences are not working, some quests are completely broken and the graphical detail has deteriorated to Gamecube levels meant that the game wasn't working. Good thing you pointed out that everything is just fine.

Obviously games are supposed to be fun. When the whole thing deteriorates beyond the point where it's fun anymore, I'd say it's broken. Broken, means it's not working the way that it's supposed to. If we define a game-breaker only as something that means the game litterally won't even boot up, we are lowering the bar to a level that none of us care for.

Just to toss my $.02 in, I had Skyrim preordered and have been playing it religiously since day one. In that time I have yet to encounter a game breaking bug. I'm not saying other people haven't, but I'm just speaking from my own experience. My biggest complaint is I'm using an SDTV and the text is really hard to read but I'm willing to deal with it.

Bethesda won me over when I purchased Oblivion and it quickly became my favorite game of all time, despite the bugs. I later tried Morrowind (I hadn't played it before Oblivion) and found it to be just a fun as Oblivion. Then I purchased Fallout 3 and fell in love with another of Bethesda's masterpieces. Oblivion was still my favorite but only because I like fantasy settings better than the post-apocalyptic...gameplay wise, Fallout 3 was better. Then I purchased Skyrim and I can honestly say that it has now became my favorite game of all time. I'm so freaking addicted to it that I sometimes dream about it at night. I may need to go to rehab...

Bethesda, thank you for the great times.

Why stop there? We don't even need dragons at all, do we? We don't need swords or armor or anything like that. All we need is a character in a room. As long as we can make this character walk around the room in circles, the game is working perfectly fine and we should be thanking Bethesda for allowing us to pay them for it.

I think Bet needs some defending as their is no other games that have this kind of depth and I would hate to see them stop making them because they feel it's not worth the headedaches and all the bashing they take when bugs are encountered.

Are you just parroting issues without actually experiencing them? Resistance issues and most of these quest bugs came with the 1.2 patch, ergo the game didn't ship with them. The fact that 1.1 was applied on release should make it blatantly obvious Bethesda is aware of issues. If you bought this product, or any game out of ignorance that it wont ship with bugs that's on you. Repeatedly whining and unsubstantial accusations that Bethesda is ignoring them is the type of useless complaining that belongs in an Occupy protest.

Keep fighting system. The 1% has your $60 now.

do you even own the game demon boy

I just want to emphasize that these are not exaggerations. My game literally looks worse than the later Gamecube games simply because 95% of my textures downscaled and simply will not load. This started before 1.2 on Sunday for me playing off disc, which itself is odd, seeing as Bethesda said the issue is limited to installation. Think about how many stone walls there are in this game. Now imagine they all look plastic, 8-bit, and blocky. And now imagine that you wait 2 weeks after release for a patch that not only does not fix them, but breaks the game mechanics even further. If it was just stone affected I wouldn't care, but it is the entire world that downscales. Armor, weapons, ingredients, snow, dirt, my hands, it's all textured straight out of 1999. So you just spent 2 weeks waiting to play a game you paid $60 to play on November 11, only to hear that you have to wait another week for a patch that (until they say it will) won't fix anything texture-wise. Keeping in mind that this is apparently something they knew about before the game even shipped. And yes, I have tried cache clearing and installing both before and after 1.2. Nothing works and my textures are stuck in N64land. People can say that this is a huge game and whatever, it is, but guess what, you'd think after making so many of these games with similar engines, and all of them being riddled with bugs that Bethesda would strive to improve their image in this regard, not cement their reputation as horrible launch developers.

You're kind of pathetic.

This forum is actually called "Skyrim Hardware and Software Issues Subforum". It was created so that people with hardware and/or software issues could have a forum to discuss these issues and so that Bethesda could monitor the issues that people report.

You are here despite not having issues with the game and you are not here to help the people who are having issues either. You are here to tell them to stop complaining...That's just weird man. If everything is ok with your game then why are you here? It would be one thing if you were here to help people out but you're not. You contribute nothing to the forum at all except accusations leveled at players who are having major issues with their copy of the game.

Oh, and I'm not parroting issues. I am having them. That's why I'm in here. Why the hell are you here? To lose your nose in Bethesada's collective rear end?

As to the second part of your post, wow! Find one place where I made an unsubstantiated accusation that Bethesda were not listening. I never said anything like that. I wouldn't be here if I didn't think anyone was listening. What are you talking about with your reference to an "occupy protest"? Why are you bringing politics into this? I've purchased plenty of games over the years and plenty of them have had a bug or two but I've never experienced something like this and I've been playing video games for over 20 years. If you call it ignorance to believe that a brand new console game should actually work, well then I guess I'm ignorant.

No, this is just my idea of a fun weekend.

least your honest, im odd my idea of fun is going in dark tombs

Ok so you have made know the issues you were having, still doesnt make sense why there is a need to make 5/10/15/20 threads on the same issue. You have an issue fine report and go about your day. continually making new threads about known issues wont make it get fixed any faster. When I made this account I posted about a quest bug my wife had with thieves guild. I know that others have the same issue (my save doesnt have this issue). Ive also reported about how my wife is stalled in MQ and Civil War lines due to 2 quests that are active for her. I didnt feel the need to make or post in several threads that have mentioned these issues that others have. I know this kind of issue will get fixed, its on their to do list. I will wait patiently for the next patch. People seem to make it seem like this is the only game they have/play and that they have to have a fix 'right now'. Its on its way and then will go through MS/Sony certification process. Fixes will come, just need to give it time.

Haha okay, "advlt". You got one thing right; these are the issues forums, not the Bethesda doesn't care about my emotions forum. Its one thing to point out an issue then move on with your life. Its another to repeatedly complain about issues and accuse Bethesda of ignoring them or not "caring". People like you are a dime a dozen and it's funny to think that when the next patch comes out you'll insist it was a direct of your bickering and mudslinging and they would have never got around to fixing it otherwise. It would break your heart if you ever found out how many games had to get patched on Xbox since their release.