Bleak. Don't play on master. I play master, do whatever non combat stuff I want and feel like the scaling is too generous for the player.

Didnt think to much there before you typed huh?

If they want lvl scaling then they need to make only combat skills raise your lvl. Not a hard concept. A game with a crafting system should not penalize you for using that system.

So many in here applauding lvl scaling so the world can be open and do whatever you want at the same time telling ppl not to do any lvling with non combat so the monsters dont outlvl you in power.

The hypocrisy is strong in this thread.

Mate, master level has a good level of challenge. It's not that i don't appreciate it's difficulty - i like it. But until now 1-30 for me was not progression as it was supposed to be. Instead i got progressively weaker. And that's how the game rewarded me for exploring every single corner, unlocking every single chest, for crafting and enchanting items and for preparing my potions before combat......

You miss what leveling non combat skills give you ... money, better equip, pots. You can't ignore it. Pots are very op in the game and can change difficult encounter into one sided slaughter. If you want to focus on non combat skills, get some combat advantage out of them or lower your difficulty.

I can't really comment on this because I have completelly opposite experience. Just understand while your character build may be unsuited for master difficulty, there are a lot of other players who would welcome much weaker character scalling and you can always turn your difficulty down.

You miss what leveling non combat skills give you ... money, better equip, pots. You can't ignore it. Pots are very op in the game and can change difficult encounter into one sided slaughter. If you want to focus on non combat skills, get some combat advantage out of them or lower your difficulty.

I don't see any level scaling, except maybe Dragons. Bandits still wear studded armor and now I can kill them with 1 hit. Wolves are killable with one hit too. They don't scale.

But... that's my point... I got all these equipment, plenty of potions etc but they are not nearly enough to compensate even if you have good combat skills. As you say i got money bought better gear, crafted other parts, enchanted it, made a bunch of pots etc but they don't give you a benefit. The levels they give you make you weaker against enemies eventually even if you have all these items/pots compared to when you had nothing. I tested this with 3 chars, highest being 30 level...

I don't see how lowering the difficulty will change progression. Personally i don't find it difficult. I find it unacceptable for the game to make me weaker for doing things that should - like in any rpg give me an extra edge as i mentioned in my previous post.

Pots are like a god mode in this game. And if you don't find the game to be difficult on max difficulty ... I don't understand what we are arguing about here. Removing mob scalling would make the game even easier.

Pots are like a god mode in this game. And if you don't find the game to be difficult on max difficulty ... I don't understand what we are arguing about here. Removing mob scalling would make the game even easier.

I've played several combinations and I'll tell you Warrior is not the strongest, if you have a non-combat character why are you getting pissy dying?
There are 5 difficulty levels, not to mention none of you will address the open world nature of the game, level scaling is essential for it.

Using all these non-combat skills such as picklock, smithing, alchemy etc etc gives you more of a disadvantage than an advantage in the battle ahead. For example i used them a lot to get benefits and instead my character got weaker and the benefits were nothing compared to the benefit of the enemies who scaled when i used these skills.

And pots in master dif are not god mode. They are as they should be. Can make you win a battle but they are never enough.

Because no level scaling at all made morrowind REALLY [censored] BORING after a while with respect to enemies, when you could KO almost anything before it had time to ever hit you

Cleared whiterun area (5-6 bandit camps at least) a total of 3 times with different characters and levels and believe me, there is.

Getting straight to the point (playing on master difficulty) i started with a "warrior" and made a "speedrun" until the first dragon kill. I completed the quests around Whiterun.

As i do in every rpg game (call it crazy but it's a habit of mine), i restarted the game to do a "perfect run" until that point, do every single quest and gain money in every way possible.

So i stole everything and everyone in Riverwood, did the same with Whiterun raised my skills a bit, mostly to gain money so that i could buy that house right away (blacksmithing, alchemy etc), did more secondary quests killed some wildlife blablabla and proceeded to do the quests like the one that you collect a bounty from the bandits at Valtheim towers...

I was a higher level than last time but my gear was much better since i was better prepared so i expected it to be easier than last time on the "speed run". It wasn't. It was like all that preparation was punished, instead of rewarded, just because i got a few more levels from secondary skills to craft/buy some items for myself. The Elder scrolls series is a lengendary one, WHY, for the love of god, do you have to take away the most fundamental thing there is in an rpg game? I understand scaling is not as bad as in Oblivion but it's still there and it utterly svcks.