Imperials vs. Stormcloaks. Let the [verbal] bloodbath contin

Post » Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:47 am

Yay for communism? Thats pretty much what I took from that...and she was a redguard and many elves are more honest then some Nords, not all elves are lie shouting demons that want humanity to die out.



She also stated that Torygg was inspired by Ulfric and what she also said that if Ulfric just asked him to directly stand up Torygg would've joined him, was killing the kid really the right reason? The only reason he did it was because he needed a symbol, also the only reason he was seen as that symbol was because of his father which really isn't fair, to prove that the empire was weak which also ended up working against him as well because it just made him look like a kingkiller and a usurper, two things that get negative views in the empire and always have.



But it could also mean they fear a unified empire too as for Cyrodiil being kept under the thumb many people have shown that the empire drags its feet at the WGC and the death squads don't leave skyrim if you beat the civil war for the stormcloaks.

Also kinda funny how you have the symbol for the Legion as your avatar

I've tried to get a stormcloak one, but every time I try it tells me its the wrong file type :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:45 pm

Yay for communism? Thats pretty much what I took from that...and she was a redguard and many elves are more honest then some Nords, not all elves are lie shouting demons that want humanity to die out.

There you go with your racist remarks again. :down:

I was talking about the store owners(the store next door) in particular not their race as a whole. Maybe you should talk to them sometime you seem to have the same personalities. Also Altmer are my favorite ES race you ignorant. Nords are second. How about you stop pointing fingers and making idiotic statements at others for no apparent reason?
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:14 pm

Id rather be Imperial than Stormcloak. I just could not handle taking *spoiler alert* Jarl Balgruuf out of power and putting that idiot Vignar Gray Mane in his place. I don't like Olfrid at all, but Vignar just sits around whiterun and the companions complaining about the empire surrenduring years later. Plus most Stormcloak supporting Jarls are bigger milk drinkers. Skald just says "The dragons will leave as soon as we push the Empire out of Skyrim" which is a stupid statement. Jarl Laila isn't horrible, but her downfall is the fact that she is prone to manipulation. The Jarl in Winterhold just runs away every time a dragon attack Winterhold when im there. The guards have more courage than he does. When a dragon attacks *spoiler alert* dragonsreach, Balgruuf is right there, in front of the dragon. People talk about Nord racism, but the Argonians hatred for Dark Elves is much worse. The argonians in Windhelm would slaughter every dunmer in the grey quarter if they had the chance.

Actually the argonians show no hate towards the Dunmer in game and most argonians probably think making the condition in Morrowind worse was enough punishment, no argonians show hate towards the dunmer at all as for the Jarl of winterhold he is a depressive weakling and lay about, he does nothing for the hold but drink and wallow in self pity while his Dunmer stewards tries to make things a lil better for those that live in that god forsaken hell hole, I honestly think if the dunmer became Jarl he would actually try to fix winterhold and make it back into a great city.

There you go with your racist remarks again. :down:

I was talking about the store owners(the store next door) in particular not their race as a whole. Maybe you should talk to them sometime you seem to have the same personalities. Also Altmer are my favorite ES race you ignorant. Nords are second. How about you stop pointing fingers and making idiotic statements at others for no apparent reason?

Umm...what? I didn't make any racist remarks O.o I defended the elves where you said you wouldn't trust a thing they said same for the shop keepers, hell I love the elves my favorite races are the Dunmer and bosmer and I have great respect for the Orsimer for their honor and bravery in battle and I respect the Altmer for their advances in the schools of magic as well as proving Necromancy can be used to benefit a race as a whole also I didn't say ALL OF THE NORDS were liars, a race shouldn't be judged by a few individuals within it.

> "I wouldn't consider anything those store owners said to be evidence even if it was against the empire. They are just really terrible to people and elves in general." Thats exactly what you said.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:15 am

Umm...what? I didn't make any racist remarks O.o I defended the elves where you said you wouldn't trust a thing they said same for the shop keepers.

> "I wouldn't consider anything those store owners said to be evidence even if it was against the empire. They are just really terrible to people and elves in general." Thats exactly what you said.

Reading comprehension...learn it. The Shopkeepers were the elves and i said i thought "they" as in those particular elves were terrible to "people and elves in general". The owners of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Radiant_Raiment.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:58 am

The owners of Radiant raiments weren't really liars either...nothing states that, they were just stuck up which knowing any tailor who deems their work the best in all of a country is a common thing also it was a common misunderstanding since you didn't point out that you were talking about them you just said shopkeepers and elves, not Radiant Raiments.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:49 pm

Reading comprehension...learn it. The Shopkeepers were the elves and i said i thought "they" as in those particular elves were terrible to "people and elves in general". The owners of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Radiant_Raiment.

But they aren't the ones who talked about Torygg. Your criticism of them is completely unrelated to the post you replied to. Cider was talking about the Bits and Pieces woman, so bringing up Radiant Raiment has nothing to do with anything.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:01 pm

but the Argonians hatred for Dark Elves is much worse. The argonians in Windhelm would slaughter every dunmer in the grey quarter if they had the chance.

What are you talking about?

The Argonians in Skyrim are apathetic towards the Dunmer, hell they're pretty apathetic towards most people.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:43 pm

The owners of Radiant raiments weren't really liars either...nothing states that, they were just stuck up which knowing any tailor who deems their work the best in all of a country is a common thing also it was a common misunderstanding since you didn't point out that you were talking about them you just said shopkeepers and elves, not Radiant Raiments.
Well then lets agree it was a big misunderstanding but the reason i don't trust "those elves" in particular, is because they seem to lack respect for anyone even their King. That is what i was refering to.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:10 pm

Also "they" can be used towards different races which has been done, many times.


Well then lets agree it was a big misunderstanding but the reason i don't trust "those elves" in particular, is because they seem to lack respect for anyone even their King. That is what i was refering to.

Yea I can see where you're coming from, they were kinda being extremely stuck up to everyone.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:23 pm

But they aren't the ones who talked about Torygg. Your criticism of them is completely unrelated to the post you replied to. Cider was talking about the Bits and Pieces woman, so bringing up Radiant Raiment has nothing to do with anything.
Yes that's why i said i thought he was talking about the next door shop. We were both talking about different things.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:34 pm

I have great respect for the Orsimer for their honor and bravery in battle

That's why we're bmfotessgdbs ;D
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:42 pm


Umm...what? I didn't make any racist remarks O.o
many elves are more honest then some Nords, not all elves are lie shouting demons that want humanity to die out.

the death squads don't leave skyrim if you beat the civil war for the stormcloaks.


They don't leave Skyrim when you're Stormcloaks because they have to keep the Stormcloaks tied up as best they can, elsewise the Stormcloaks will build up unimpeded. If the Legion wins, whether it's true or not, the Thalmor can't legally attack Imperials - there's no reason for them to stay.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:57 am

They don't leave Skyrim when you're Stormcloaks because they have to keep the Stormcloaks tied up as best they can, elsewise the Stormcloaks will build up unimpeded. If the Legion wins, whether it's true or not, the Thalmor can't legally attack Imperials - there's no reason for them to stay.

True, good point, but they can legally capture an Imperial if they do have proof of them working for the blades or are talos worshipers.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:20 pm

Yeah but the Empire doesn't attack and drive out the Thalmor. It isn't implied anywhere. Infact Tulius shuts Rikke up when she whispers something like "Talos be with you, brother." when Ulfric dies.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:19 pm

She also stated that Torygg was inspired by Ulfric and what she also said that if Ulfric just asked him to directly stand up Torygg would've joined him, was killing the kid really the right reason? The only reason he did it was because he needed a symbol, also the only reason he was seen as that symbol was because of his father which really isn't fair, to prove that the empire was weak which also ended up working against him as well because it just made him look like a kingkiller and a usurper, two things that get negative views in the empire and always have.
You have a way of changing the subject when someone points out an inconsistency. I'm saying that it makes no real sense that Torygg's speeches about "the empire this, the empire that" would have been about independence, given what we know otherwise, that he actually didn't want to secede and that Ulfric didn't know he admired his talk about independence.

Also kinda funny how you have the symbol for the Legion as your avatar
Well the Medes aren't the Septims. Their use of the dragon symbol is kind of a sham.
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Post » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:17 am

My life for the Empire, identifying ingame as a redguard I think the Empire preventing Skyrim from seceding will lead to Hammerfell being posed to become the new empire once the dust has settled. With the Empire and Dominion crushing each other, any other sides will have an advantage once they decide to strike. Limiting the amount of other sides is in Hammerfells best interests.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:23 pm

Well the Medes aren't the Septims. Their use of the dragon symbol is kind of a sham.

The imperial drake dates back way before the septims.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:10 pm

The imperial drake dates back way before the septims.
Good to know. I hope I wasn't the only who just stared at the front of the case of Skyrim when I first pulled it out of the case and inserted it into the disk drive.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:19 am

The imperial drake dates back way before the septims.

It dates back to a Nord. :P
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:20 am

It dates back to a Nord. :tongue:

Well in a way yes, but remember bretons and imperials both come from the same gene pool as the nords.
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Post » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:43 am

All humans came form Nords, so yeah.

Bretons are related to Elves, too.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:24 pm

All humans came form Nords, so yeah.
You could tell that from the fact that all human races are improved versions of Nords :P
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:59 pm

All humans came form Nords, so yeah.


Um. No.

What about the Akaviri?
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:36 pm


Um. No.

What about the Akaviri?

And the Redguards.
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Post » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:45 pm

And the Redguards.

Redguards are most likely descended from Nords.
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