Underrated: Nox, Uplink and Iron Storm come to mind

EDIT: ooh Rainbow Six Vegas 2, I didn't realize it until I played the game but tactical arcade shooters are a lot of fun


such a good game, one of my favourite hack'n slash games ever. It looked great for its time too.

I'm not sure I get the dung beetle thing. Are you trying to say because they all eat crap that it must be good? If you were to ask dung beetles whether they think crap is good what do you think they would say? Yes..because they're dung beetles, they exist to live in crap..bad comparison. As for Justin Beiber, yes he is popular.. so many people think he is good, I'm not sure what your point is there.

I agree that GRID was underrated though.

Overrated: CoD, Diablo 1 & 2, Morrowind, Every MMO in existence

Underrated: Brink, Oblivion, Gothic 4, Titan Quest

Ah, I second this one! When it came out, people didn't like it becuase it was for Gamecube, but geeze, they expect it to make them a sandwhich or something? It was a fun, fun game! *remembers the Manta Ray boss* and a bit frustrating too...

I really need to play more games.

Overrated: Final Fantasy series, WOW.
Underrated: Mirror's Edge, The Suffering, Drakan:TAG

<sub>I probably say this in every single "most _ video game ever" thread, but seriouesly - MYST! Where is the universal recognition this masterpiece deserves? It was sub-mainstream for a couple years in the 90's, but everyone has completely forgotten about it.

Why am I having font size problems? Changing the size isn't working...</sub>

Overrated: FF VII, I mean [censored], I enjoyed it, but the hype surrounding it is just ridiculous.

Underrated: Sense you mention Star Ocean, I'll say Star Ocean: Till the End of Time. Silent Hill also gets labeled as a RE clone often, even though it's brand of horror is completely different. "THERE WAS A HOLE HEAR, NOW IT'S GONE." Something about that always got to me. Plus the crotch biting mutant children in the school, little bastards.

EDIT: I tried to resist saying Skyrim for overrated, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think people viewed it as some ultimate game of mega super awesome passed down from The Lord himself.

Despite my vehement Fallout very devoted fan-ism, I don't feel NV is underrated. It gets just as much praise as it does ridicule.

EDIT: Franchises that are all around overrated: Assassin's Creed, and, uh. Yeah, pretty much just Assassin's Creed.

Also underrated: Unreal.
IMO the best single-player campaign in an FPS ever.

all the backgrounds ect had to move across the screen. the enemy sprites did not, so thats why they look better than the background. it was the same for anything at the time, if they wanted something to have "good graphics" it had to not move.
i suppose you judge golden sun for inconsistent graphics too huh? damn graphics wh0re. loads of games suffer from inconsistent graphics. its not about graphics.
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if your moaning about the size difference of the two parties, it doesnt matter. thats the style they went for because they wanted "good graphics" in thier game, then so be it. i suppose if there is a girl coming on to you and she is not 10/10 perfect in every way you'd turn her down?

you shouldnt have turned down ff6. best game on snes, better than chrono trigger

damn how do i insert these images?

Huh, and here I was thinking that different people are allowed to have different opinions.

Finally another Grid fan.

My point with the dung beetle reference isn't supposed to be taken literally, it's a metaphor. Just because a large amount of people do something doesn't mean everyone should do it.

My point about Beiber is because most children like him because they are either too young to have heard any other genre of music, are girls who think he's hot or are simply following the trend. Whereas the ones who genuinely love music in itself and don't particularly care about the visual aspect recognize his songs as the unimaginative, cliched, poorly written crap it is.

My overall point is that something being popular and something being good are entirely different subjects because popularity mostly depends on how well and how widely its advertised, whereas how good something is depends partly on the game, artist, movie, etc and partly on the perspective of the person who views it. Justin Beiber is very popular, but there are still a lot of people who think his music is crap. Die mannequin is not nearly as well known, but they are one of my favourite bands ever. They can definitely overlap like with Metallica or ACDC and this simply proves how separate these concepts are.

This has, of course, been all written from my perspective as an example. Metallica and ACDC are both very popular and are both genuinely good bands from my perspective. You might find different artists/movies/books that appeal more to you, but the concepts of how good something is and how popular something is barely affects each other at all.

Yeah, but games are not as malleable as something like music..generally when a game is good (exceptions of course), people will at least have heard of it.

This is not the case with music.

The gaming community is also very young while the music community has had plenty of time to create massive rifts between fans of different genres.

This being said my point still stands because there are still lots of great games that never get heard about by lots of people because the advertising is being paid by the two or three people who made it in their homes. A lot more people have heard of Prototype which was made by Activision which is a multi-billion dollar company, then have heard of Space Pirates and Zombies which was made by the two people who make up MinMax Games.

Yes the popularity indicates a mass of peoplewho think it is good from their perspective, that's the main thing. Whether something is good is an opinion, which was my point with my first post. A 'professional' reviewers opinion (rating) isn't much different than what a random bunch of peoples opinions are (popularity). This doesn't necessarily mean its good to you, just a general consensus of what people think.
Of course advertising has an affect on popularity because more people are aware of it and can form an opinion on it. But a lack of popularity doesn't necessarily mean people think it's bad, it usually just means that they don't know about it and thus can't form an opinion on it one way or another, whereas, with popularity they have.

Overrated? Limbo.

It's a well-polished game, and it has a nice aesthetic. However there are countless adventure/puzzle Flash games that are just as well made and available for free on the internet. I just don't see anything about Limbo that sets it apart from these. If I'd paid full price, instead of getting it when it was 75% off, I wouldn't feel like I got my money's worth.

Overrated:

Bioshock 1/2 - I don't see the appeal of it at all besides the story. And even that was just okay, except the end of 1.
FFVII - It has an amazing setting, and did wonders for the franchise in general, - I love it, don't get me wrong - but I don't think it deserves the kind of fan following it got.
Minecraft - Seriously?
Arkham Asylum/City - Same as Bioshock.
Call of Duty - It was cool in MW, but after that they just started repeating themselves. It's ridiculous.
Skyrim - I played it, and found it just okay. It definitely doesn't deserve all the internet attention and memes.

Underrated:

Battlefield - Far superior to COD, yet not as popular for some reason.
FFXIII - It's got a pretty cool story and setting too, but noooo "We want Sephiroth PloX :3"
Deus Ex - I never hear anyone talk about this series. It's so good!

Overrated: Limbo is recent. FF VII. Bioshock, the whole damn series.

Underrated: Monster Hunter (why don't they love you? ) Panzer Dragoon Orta, we'll never see such an amazing game again. Section 8: Prejudice.

Just two I can think of.

I tried plying limbo, but got pretty bored of it. No idea why it was so great, I found it dull.
Bioshock 1 is the only overrated one in the swries. Infinate isnt out, and 2 was hated or considered average.

Minecraft, yeah thats overhyped. I got bored after 2 hours. I can build huge buildings, but whats the point ? It serves no purpose, its just a matter of grinding.

Whats the point of art? LOL, think outside the box bro.

I love that game.

Ah yes art, anything qualifies these days, crucifix in piss, rndom paint splatters, and now minecraft. Good job on makaing the word meaningless society.

Unfortunately that cool story wasn't told well at all and the setting crippled by the fact that it was all scenery. Plus, Final Fantasy VII remake aside, I doubt a villain like Sepiroth will ever be popular again. In fact, people don't really seem to want anything Final Fantasy had to offer from VII and onward. They want realistic, very traditional fantasy settings/characters (i.e. Skyrim), non-linear storytelling, open world gameplay, etc.

I'm not sure it's even possible at this point to make a Final Fantasy game that wouldn't be met with a very mixed reception.

Japan would like a word with you.

So mad bro, because even childrens pictures made of maccaroni is art.

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I know it's popular over there, that doesn't count though. It needs to be appreciated here more. Been so long since we've gotten a game.

It serves the same purpose as legos or other children's building blocks. I think many of us are too old to really appreciate it. I tried minecraft, and after I'd found some iron and coal, and built myself a little shelter so I could survive the night, I was done. I wasn't looking for a virtual legos kit, which is essentially what it is.

They keep saying they have "big plans" for Monster Hunter in the West, but the way Capcom has been lately I kind of doubt that. Probably won't see Monster Hunter 3G on 3DS, but maybe MH4. Also rumors that a MH game is in the works for Vita.

I'm still holding out hope for MHP3 HD on PS3 though.