Pony Effect Thread #64 : Othor Games

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:51 pm

I think Bioware officially snapped form all the pressure. They're locking all topics about us trying to rally and discuss stuff about the retake movement. Even topics about starting a new charity. Child's Play is shutting down our donation drive as well. Why? Penny Arcade get paid to make comics for Bioware/EA. Bioware/EA is also I think a contributor to the donation. So we're getting shut down "because of pressure". This is like a full scale military crack down and we can't lose. Bioware officially went nazi on us. Please do inform everyone you can. Perhaps something more drastic is in need to show them how upset we are. We've been fairly civil and cordial so far. It doesn't seem to me like Bioware shares the sentiment. Not to mention there's rumors Bioware/EA is paying off game news sites to write bad pres son us to try and weaken our movement.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:19 am

So I tested out the N7 Hurricane on a bronze match a little bit ago and I actually really like it. It kicks like a mule on steroids and chews threw ammo like no other, but it puts out a ridiculous amount of damage for an SMG. One odd thing I found about it is that it seems to have a lot less recoil when you aren't zoomed in. Once I got used to firing from the hip, I was tearing through anything short of Geth Pyros and Primes.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:12 pm

So I tested out the N7 Hurricane on a bronze match a little bit ago and I actually really like it. It kicks like a mule on steroids and chews threw ammo like no other, but it puts out a ridiculous amount of damage for an SMG. One odd thing I found about it is that it seems to have a lot less recoil when you aren't zoomed in. Once I got used to firing from the hip, I was tearing through anything short of Geth Pyros and Primes.

It was my favourite SMG in singleplayer too.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:50 pm

Just finished...

Spoiler

Thessia. COMPLETE F'ING BULLLLL!! Seriously, Kai Leng? KAI LENG GOT THE DAMN DATA?????? I could have easily shot him in the head and he would be dead, but noooo, he has infinite gunship and shields. So. Lame.

That was a huge letdown, Shepard is suppose to be a supreme Badass and for that to happen is mindblowing. The rest of that area's excellent but that part is terrible.

I think Bioware officially snapped form all the pressure. They're locking all topics about us trying to rally and discuss stuff about the retake movement. Even topics about starting a new charity. Child's Play is shutting down our donation drive as well. Why? Penny Arcade get paid to make comics for Bioware/EA. Bioware/EA is also I think a contributor to the donation. So we're getting shut down "because of pressure". This is like a full scale military crack down and we can't lose. Bioware officially went nazi on us. Please do inform everyone you can. Perhaps something more drastic is in need to show them how upset we are. We've been fairly civil and cordial so far. It doesn't seem to me like Bioware shares the sentiment. Not to mention there's rumors Bioware/EA is paying off game news sites to write bad pres son us to try and weaken our movement.

If this is true, what a bunch of Jackasses (Excuse my language mods). I can't believe that EA would be that low to put actual pressure on a non profit charity, that's beyond low it's reprehensable. I can't excuse what they did, if this is true I will never give them another dollar.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:59 pm

I think Bioware officially snapped form all the pressure. They're locking all topics about us trying to rally and discuss stuff about the retake movement. Even topics about starting a new charity. Child's Play is shutting down our donation drive as well. Why? Penny Arcade get paid to make comics for Bioware/EA. Bioware/EA is also I think a contributor to the donation. So we're getting shut down "because of pressure". This is like a full scale military crack down and we can't lose. Bioware officially went nazi on us. Please do inform everyone you can. Perhaps something more drastic is in need to show them how upset we are. We've been fairly civil and cordial so far. It doesn't seem to me like Bioware shares the sentiment. Not to mention there's rumors Bioware/EA is paying off game news sites to write bad pres son us to try and weaken our movement.

Shutting down the charity is a strange move considering the explanation I saw in one thread was that it was being closed because of "lies about us buying reviews". I'm guessing this is the point that EA's legal team has waded in, though I can't help feeling that it's not a good PR move. Well, not that either staying tight-lipped or being vague and evasive were a good idea either, things which led to the crescendo of speculation in the first place.

» Tue May 15, 2012 12:12 am

The IFF mission is still my favorite out of all the ME's. ME2 husks are fun to kill. Especially with Shockwave :rofl:

The ME3 husks don't shatter, and the ME1 ones have shields :eek:

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:05 pm

The IFF mission is still my favorite out of all the ME's. ME2 husks are fun to kill. Especially with Shockwave :rofl:

The ME3 husks don't shatter, and the ME1 ones have shields :eek:

I guess ME2's husks were the Version 2 beta release...

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:27 pm

My favorite mission would have to be Garrus' recruitment mission. Runner up goes to Jack's loyalty mission simply for the very beginning part with the rain. Best rain effects I've seen in a game.

» Tue May 15, 2012 1:24 am

I just deleted my data for Mass Effect 3, I'll be trading it back in tomorrow and putting the store credit I get from Gamestop towards Witcher 2, now there's a game company that's going to treat me right. Shutting down the charity is the straw that broke the camels back for me, I will never buy another EA game as long as they are in business and that includes all of their developers including Bioware.

It's tough for me to do this, I loved Mass Effect 1, would give it a 10/10 rating. I loved Mass Effect 2 as well even with my problems with the lack of an inventory, loss of RPG elements and the dreaded Planet Scaning game. Mass Effect 2 gets a 9.5/10 from me, I loved the missions especially the final one and the loyality missions were well done. Mass Effect 3, the highs can't make up for the problems that the game has. It gets an 8/10 from me but the ending ruins any interest that I have in the franchise because your choices don't matter in the end and the autodialoge makes me sick as an RPG player. I can excuse a bad ending from other games like Skyrim or Fallout 3 but not Mass Effect 3 where the story is the main emphesis.

Shutting down the charity is a strange move considering the explanation I saw in one thread was that it was being closed because of "lies about us buying reviews". I'm guessing this is the point that EA's legal team has waded in, though I can't help feeling that it's not a good PR move. Well, not that either staying tight-lipped or being vague and evasive were a good idea either, things which led to the crescendo of speculation in the first place.

Definitely not a good PR move at all, this one will come back to bite them. I'm done with EA.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:49 pm

I'm trading in Mass Effect 3 tomorrow as well. I was never into Fallout despite being a huge TES fan, until recently that is...loved Fallout 3 and gonna pick up New Vegas with all dlc included.

I'm done with BioWare.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:58 pm

I'm not going to go as far as trading stuff in, but I think I'll be rather more wary of EA and its associated companies.

In other news, I see an editor for the coalesced file has been released, which I'm looking forward to fiddling about with. Stuff like increasing scan speeds and the distance at which interactable (is that a real word?) objects become noticeable will be quite helpful...

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:18 pm

What are the forums like right now on BSN?

» Tue May 15, 2012 1:33 am

I wouldn't go so far as to trade my copy in, as I actually really like the game. Probably my second favorite after ME1. I am not going to let a horrible ending spoil what was otherwise a stellar game. About 98% of the game I was really enjoying it, hoping that the rumors of the ending were not true - "The writing here is pretty good, I don't see how the ending could be that bad." - but ultimately finding out that they were.

Overall I liked the game a lot, but probably will not be buying Bioware games in the future, not because of the ending, but to their response to people's displeasure with the ending.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:06 pm

What are the forums like right now on BSN?

Hard to say since I'm not really enough of a regular to have much of a "feel" for their usual nature. The ME3 spoilers section still seems to be moving very quickly and there's still plenty of speculation, though it seems a bit disjointed since some of the major threads were locked.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:30 pm

Quetion about ME2s Suicide Mission,

Spoiler

how do I make it to where only Shep dies?

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:37 pm

Quetion about ME2s Suicide Mission,

Spoiler

how do I make it to where only Shep dies?

Spoiler

Only Shepard as in "every squad mate lives?", because that cannot be done. Shepard only dies if you have one or less living squad mates by the end of the mission, so the only way for Shep to die is for everyone else to die as well.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:14 pm

Greetings, super friends! Like many of you, I was appalled by Penny Arcade's decision to shut down the charity. I tweeted "Tycho" and "Gabe" (Penny Arcade's founders) about my dismay. Gabe was kind enough to respond. I am @TheFroats.

@TheFroats:
[email="TheFroats@cwgabriel"]@cwgabriel[/email] https://twitter.com/#%21/TychoBrahe We say, here, free money to go buy sick children toys...and you say NO??? Have you guys lost your God Damned MINDS?

@TheFroats:
https://twitter.com/#%21/cwgabriel https://twitter.com/#%21/TychoBrahe CP used to be about helping kids and combating negative gamer stereotypes. What changed? You forgot your mission.

@cwgabriel:
https://twitter.com/#%21/TheFroats I don't know what to tell you man. If you read what Jamie said and still think that way I'm sorry.

@TheFroats
I did and I do. If someone says "Support child's play if you like Kiddie porm", shut that down, totally. But a blanket policy?

@cwgabriel:
https://twitter.com/#%21/TheFroats Child's Play is not a tool to draw attention to your cause. Child's Play is the cause. That's our feeling on it.

@TheFroats
https://twitter.com/#%21/cwgabriel It was not a tool to draw attention. It was a tool to fight a negative stereotype...which is why you guys created it, remember?

@cwgabriel:
https://twitter.com/#%21/TheFroats it's not your tool to fight your negative stereotype. you can not use the charity as a shield.

@TheFroats
https://twitter.com/#%21/cwgabriel It was a tool to fight "our" negative stereotype...the one you created the charity to fight. Gamers. Not ME3 detractors. Gamers.

@TheFroats
https://twitter.com/#%21/cwgabriel Maybe I can't change your mind. But you were one of the good guys...and you broke my heart tonight. We wanted to help and we did.

@cwgabriel
https://twitter.com/#%21/TheFroats I'm sorry man. I hope me taking the time to talk with you about it at least shows you that I care about it.

@TheFroats
https://twitter.com/#%21/cwgabriel I don't doubt you care, I doubt that you're making the right call. Who's helping the kids, who's hurting them? Thx for your time.

There is one hell of a [censored] storm going on right now. I think in their zeal to put lip to Biowares ass Penny Arcade is going to get drawn into this.

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So much for their charity fighting against gamer stereotypes. They look as vain glorious as all of us wanting to prim their little charity and only take dollar bills created by the god of neutrality himself apparently. So because of their [censored] politics less children will game today. Good job. And people think WE'RE entitled? These [censored]s are feeding their ego, they want to look good.

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:40 am

My favorite mission would have to be Garrus' recruitment mission. Runner up goes to Jack's loyalty mission simply for the very beginning part with the rain. Best rain effects I've seen in a game.

My favorite mission is perhaps the Suicide Mission. It has just perfect music, lots of action, and of course the conclusion to ME2.

Another good one is the Collector Ship where you discover what the Collectors do with their captured humans.

Quetion about ME2s Suicide Mission,

Spoiler

how do I make it to where only Shep dies?

Why would you want to do that?

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:26 pm

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/03/23/why-childs-play-stopped-taking-donations-from-retake-mass-effect/?utm_source=alertsnewpost&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20120323

Forbes' comments on shutting down the Retake ME3 Child's Play drive. I kind of see where Penny Arcade is coming from. I strongly disagree, but I see it.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:04 pm

This reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQyLkMRgLJE stance on the issue.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:32 pm

There is one hell of a [censored] storm going on right now. I think in their zeal to put lip to Biowares ass Penny Arcade is going to get drawn into this.

Edit
So much for their charity fighting against gamer stereotypes. They look as vain glorious as all of us wanting to prim their little charity and only take dollar bills created by the god of neutrality himself apparently. So because of their [censored] politics less children will game today. Good job. And people think WE'RE entitled? These [censored]s are feeding their ego, they want to look good.

I agree that things aren't being handled at all well. I think the rest of us should perhaps take a few steps back though: there's a lot of bad stuff going down by the look of things and it's probably a good idea for us onlookers to not have it land on us. Which is probably a horribly mangled metaphor, but y'know.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:38 pm

I agree that things aren't being handled at all well. I think the rest of us should perhaps take a few steps back though: there's a lot of bad stuff going down by the look of things and it's probably a good idea for us onlookers to not have it land on us. Which is probably a horribly mangled metaphor, but y'know.

I think "[censored] hits the fan" is the idiom you're looking for.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:49 pm

I think "[censored] hits the fan" is the idiom you're looking for.

That's also worth taking a few steps away from. :laugh:

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:48 pm

I was just about to donate to the charity too. I went looking for it and it was all locked up. I hesitated this long for this exact reason! I knew we would piss someone off. Looks like our movement is going to keep working. With any luck we'll start a new charity. It's a minor blow at best, the charity drive accomplished two goals. Money for kids and raising awareness. Still, I can't help but feel bitter about it. Hold the line everyone.

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On the bright side PA and Bioware are going to have to go to PAX and live down a live in person [censored] storm. They will need nothing less than the God Emperor's Finest to protect them. Even then I have my doubts.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:09 pm

Bioware brought this on themselves,what they said they would accomplish in relation to the endings did not live up to what was delivered.In an other industry if you spun lie after lie about a product and customers were not happy you would make it right of find yourself in court.I am not sure why gaming developers seem to be above the law in this regards,either way Bioware are going from bad to worse just look at the joke that was Dragon Age 2.They never seem to learn there lesson from past failures.