PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #19

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:38 am

I normally don't like IGN, but some of the views on this show are representative of many PS3 users. Watch this video ( http://au.ign.com/videos/2012/09/10/game-scoop-episode-259-part-1) and really listen to what Colin Moriarty is saying in the second half of the show. This is why we are angry, and why your company needs to do something to rectify it’s reputation and ensure strong future sales on the PS3. Please gstaff, bring these legitimate concerns to the devs, and just try to get your PR staff to communicate.

wow. that's pretty much everyone's general opinion in a nice tidy 6 minute segment.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:05 am

I normally don't like IGN, but some of the views on this show are representative of many PS3 users. Watch this video ( http://au.ign.com/videos/2012/09/10/game-scoop-episode-259-part-1) and really listen to what Colin Moriarty is saying in the second half of the show. This is why we are angry, and why your company needs to do something to rectify it’s reputation and ensure strong future sales on the PS3. Please gstaff, bring these legitimate concerns to the devs, and just try to get your PR staff to communicate.

Kind of hits the nail on the head for the most part.

Although at least NV I know people had a good amount of issues with. I played FO3 and I was pretty good when playing it, not really any issues at all.

really? that kinda svcks, that means after a while, with all my characters i'll be able to easily go throw dawnguard just like every gulid in the game. but maybe thatas just me.

Well it's probably a bit more lengthy than the thieves guild quest line, but essentially it is just another faction or guild questline.
Kind of both combined into one. It'll most likely take over a day to beat, but you could probably beat the whole main quest in about 2 days.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:57 pm

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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:39 am

Everyone in this thread needs to watch this video

I watched this and there is much insight about the past and current state of Skyrim/DG for PS3 users. As a PS3 Skyrim player, I have been lucky to have had minimal issues with the game. And when I say minimal, I truly mean that. Right now (with all patches installed) I have characters with 11MB save files and no issues running the game. Months ago I was ecstatic when DG was announced. I waited the 30 days and knew it wouldn't be out on July 26th because it wasn't announced. However, I was assuming it would be out soon thereafter. PC version was released with no announcement prior, and I figured it would come soon. Months later and no real news is available. I agree that it is sad that some folks (and *some* is a relative term. If 10% of PS3 players can't play it, and there are, for example, 10 million PS3 players-that's a ton of angry folks) can't successfully enjoy a product they spent good money on. At this point I've rather just moved the DLC and any others coming out into the "wishful thinking" area of my gaming line-up. If it comes out, it comes out. I'm most certainly NOT buying it for PC or an Xbox (plus the game, plus Xbox Live, plus the DLC) as I already own it. Bethesda has released some awesome games, but they knew about the PS3 issues and therefore should have been ethical and honest with this information. Had they released it for Xbox only, I perhaps would have purchased another console. Heck, I bought one originally when Oblivion came out (then later got rid of it for PS3. Personally, I like PS3 better. But this is only preferrence).

I am happy to work on my own project at this time. While Bethesda is digging a deeper hole I am happy to do research and create my own RPG using RPG Maker VX Ace. I am having so much fun researching lore and constructing an RPG based on The Slayers anime series. Bethesda can go ahead and play the silent card, but until they clean up their act, I will not purchase ANY of their games. Period. And I say this with my copy of Skyrim running perfectly on PS3. Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching. Got that Bethesda?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:08 am

Furthermore, I'm not saying I want a hand-out. What I would like is an overall apology to the PS3 community. Evasive responses about the issues only stokes the fire and if the system is that hard to work with, admit defeat and offer exclusive content to us that can be implemented correctly. I agree that free content is undoable, but look at it this way: If you pay for a product, you should expect you are receiving what you pay for. Now, again, my copy runs fine. However, what about the poor folks who bought it at the launch and immediately had problems, making the game unplayable? Patches are fine. But if the core issue is the PS3 setup of video/RAM allocation then ethically it should have never been released for PS3. Ah, but what am I saying? Money makes the world go 'round and they have their money from the poor saps who own the game while not being able to play it.

If I order a cheeseburger and get liver, get me my damn cheeseburger or give me my money back. :biggrin:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:57 am

Well it's probably a bit more lengthy than the thieves guild quest line, but essentially it is just another faction or guild questline.
Kind of both combined into one. It'll most likely take over a day to beat, but you could probably beat the whole main quest in about 2 days.
ok thanks for the info. for me it takes me 2 days to finish the thieves guild quests ( meaning main quest line & bringing it back to there glory. ) so this dlc will most likely will take me 3 days or more. lol.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:32 am

Furthermore, I'm not saying I want a hand-out. What I would like is an overall apology to the PS3 community. Evasive responses about the issues only stokes the fire and if the system is that hard to work with, admit defeat and offer exclusive content to us that can be implemented correctly. I agree that free content is undoable, but look at it this way: If you pay for a product, you should expect you are receiving what you pay for. Now, again, my copy runs fine. However, what about the poor folks who bought it at the launch and immediately had problems, making the game unplayable? Patches are fine. But if the core issue is the PS3 setup of video/RAM allocation then ethically it should have never been released for PS3. Ah, but what am I saying? Money makes the world go 'round and they have their money from the poor saps who own the game while not being able to play it.

If I order a cheeseburger and get liver, get me my damn cheeseburger or give me my money back. :biggrin:

Precisely. If they knew this was going to be a problem beforehand... and given the nature of the problem, they should have... then they either should have changed their engine or not released it to PS3 at all.

Just because I am expecting some backlash about Beth knowing it was going to fail let me explain.

If you as a programmer create an engine that relies on the RAM of a console to access tid bits of information accross the entire game, and the more tid bits, the larger the amount of info that needs to be processed at once, then it is a short leap, and even a "well duh" moment to assume that the Xbox will have an easier time processing that info with 512MB of RAM than the PS3s 250MB RAM. This isn't rocket science.

So if the engine of your game depends on all that RAM, then you have two options. 1.) Change the engine to accommodate for the lower RAM count that is available. Either by not saving every tid bit, moving resources around to compensate (using the 50 gigs of space on the disc for example), or changing from the ground up how the engine processes information. Or 2.) Don't release it for the console it won't work properly on.

The long and the short of it is that at least the programmers had to know that it wasn't going to run well on the PS3 especially as save files got larger. Knowing you are releasing a lower quality product to a consumer and selling it at the same cost while representing it as the same quality is a crime, at least in the US.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:19 pm

you did this through Bethesda?

..as for DG no news, of course.. At least they could release the barber. that can't be so hard to pull out and push to the Sony servers.

Yes, I did this through Bethesda's own Customer Service, Customer Support, whatever you want to call it.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:57 pm

**TWITTER UPDATES REGARDING DAWNGUARD**

https://twitter.com/DCDeacon Pete! Can we have an update on PS3 DLC. It's been a huge dilemma. PLEASE ANSWER!!! (I created a twitter account just for this.)

https://twitter.com/Neuralgamer I don't have an update beyond what we put out during PAX. Still working on it.



https://twitter.com/DCDeacon Is PS3 Dawnguard issue only a matter of backwards compatibility, or is potential compatibility w/future DLC an issue as well?

https://twitter.com/GhostOfTyrone it's a matter of how it works on its own. Other dlc does complicate things




https://twitter.com/DCDeacon Hey Pete have you seen that Ign video on ps3/dawnguard about their view on the situation? If so what's your say about that vid?

https://twitter.com/Ricksterzgamer https://twitter.com/The_Extractor_ A mix of opinions and some info they state as fact that are just completely untrue.

https://twitter.com/DCDeacon Thanks for the reply its just hard on what to believe anymore. I'm still enjoying ps3 skyrim and hopefully Dawnguard if and when.


These are the updates i have for all of you.

Do with these what you will....

Remember..just updating and stating facts
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:59 am

I like the updates, Storm. Keep up the good work. :)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:47 am

i dont see why you guys are even bothered about it. i mean i have DG i bought skyrim again for 360 to get DG an i actually wish i had not bothered. DG is not very fun to play as its jus full of bugs an silly bugs that should not be there. having to press the button 5-10 times to switch forms/use bats. having to have multiple button presses to do the spells too. its unresponsive, slow an buggy. all my favourite powers an shouts reset when changing form too. its not a polished dlc an basically is ruined by the sheer number of issues plaguing it. i cant believe this was actually thought to be a well polished an finished dlc. i mean i dont even want to play it its soo horrible an clunky. the rest of the game seems perfectly fine in comparison. but the VL has ruined my game as i now have drawbacks from having it. but its soo buggy i never want to use it( i know i can change back an will when i finished). i do want to get all cheevos tho so im stuck with a char thats jus crappy to play for now, lol.

wot im trying to say is you ps3 users are not missing much so really do not worry. id rather they never released the dlc the way it currently is. nobody should have to play with this crap.

now dont get me wrong the actual gameplay an general idea is great an i could be loving it, but it jus does not work well like its supposed to. if it did then youd defo be missing out on something. but as it stands all your really missing out on is a glitchy dlc thatl make you wonder why it was even released in the first place. trust me u guys are not missing much at all in the current state DG is in. id rather my ms points back to spend on a couple other dlc for other games that actually work properly an give me enjoyment not frustration.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:08 am

Sorry you are not digging Dawnguard championpuffa.

Bums me out a bit as well because now that i know some of the stuff i want is tied into the DG main quest. And that even if the DLC miraculously finds its way to PS3, i'll have to play through a gimmicky story to get it. :sad:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:33 am

i dont see why you guys are even bothered about it. i mean i have DG i bought skyrim again for 360 to get DG an i actually wish i had not bothered. DG is not very fun to play as its jus full of bugs an silly bugs that should not be there. having to press the button 5-10 times to switch forms/use bats. having to have multiple button presses to do the spells too. its unresponsive, slow an buggy. all my favourite powers an shouts reset when changing form too. its not a polished dlc an basically is ruined by the sheer number of issues plaguing it. i cant believe this was actually thought to be a well polished an finished dlc. i mean i dont even want to play it its soo horrible an clunky. the rest of the game seems perfectly fine in comparison. but the VL has ruined my game as i now have drawbacks from having it. but its soo buggy i never want to use it( i know i can change back an will when i finished). i do want to get all cheevos tho so im stuck with a char thats jus crappy to play for now, lol.

wot im trying to say is you ps3 users are not missing much so really do not worry. id rather they never released the dlc the way it currently is. nobody should have to play with this crap.

now dont get me wrong the actual gameplay an general idea is great an i could be loving it, but it jus does not work well like its supposed to. if it did then youd defo be missing out on something. but as it stands all your really missing out on is a glitchy dlc thatl make you wonder why it was even released in the first place. trust me u guys are not missing much at all in the current state DG is in. id rather my ms points back to spend on a couple other dlc for other games that actually work properly an give me enjoyment not frustration.

I can't really speak for the PS3 community as I am a PC user but it seems to me that it is no longer about DG and more about how Bethesda seems to simply not care about the PS3 at all, it was said above in 2 posts quite nicely, They had to know skyrim could have problems with the PS3 hell they used a third party to port Oblivion to the PS3 one can only assume they expected to have similar problems porting skyrim to the PS3. So then the question becomes did they just not care enough to try and bring a quality port to the system? or can they simply not code well enough on the PS3 to do so? If it is the later why in the world wouldn't they go the same route they went with Oblivion?
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https://twitter.com/DCDeacon Hey Pete have you seen that Ign video on ps3/dawnguard about their view on the situation? If so what's your say about that vid?

https://twitter.com/Ricksterzgamer https://twitter.com/The_Extractor_ A mix of opinions and some info they state as fact that are just completely untrue.

Then how about tweeting the truth??? I wish someone had the cojones the ask Todd Howard. At least you know he won't bullshlt you like this guy does all the time
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:18 am

Ah yes, nothing like deleting a post or two only to have your d-link go down before you let anyone know. Anyway....

A couple of posts have gone away that were threatening other members. One threatened members who were complaining in the beginning and the other threatening Bethesda employees (maybe in jest but we don't allow threats or flaming even in jest. So those are gone to our graveyard of bad posts.

Ro, if you could remove the first two lines of this thread please, I'm really, really not enjoying the tone implied, yes?

I'm off to report a few individuals who keep doing repeat business as a**holes in here.
A couple of things. Should you not like the way a moderator words something, please do feel free to write them a pm and ask if it could be worded differently. Tone is difficult to hear over the internet and I assure you we don't want to disturb anyone but rather just want to get the message across that we welcome your complaints when they are posted within the rules of the forum. Complaints and even venting can be delivered in a way that insults nobody or groups of people but get the message across. They can also be done without making threats and without bypassing the autocensor which you have done by inserting ** into a word above. We don't warn for typing out the word unless it's quite an abuse of the autocensor. We do warn for doing what you just did above. Though I'm not even sure if [censored]s is censored or not. Please, that is an example of what we don't want folks doing. Regardless of how much empathy we have for PS:3 players we can't allow posts that blatantly disobey forum rules. Doing so would be unfair to all other members who have been warned for doing just that elsewhere. There is a PS:3 player in my home and so we have one unhappy gamer in this house too so I do understand.
Now I believe a forest fire is typically countered with a back fire, so burning things with a controlled fire so that the out of control one has no means of spreading, right?

Would the backfire that would be applied here, be announcing that it won't be released so that there is no longer any grounds to keep being impatient and angry? xD



Im on PC and I had people on youtube saying I should buy a 360 and shut up about everything lol

They're actually bragging about how PS3 doesn't have anything and they have anything. They are purposely throwing it into peoples faces and admitting to it, and rubbing it in talking down on everyone and cussing them out. It's extremely annoying.

At least on here it can be monitered, but on youtube? Hah dream on. I get cussed out 5 times a day on youtube for having my own opinion. And you know what? When I agree with them they still cuss me out! lol I don't understand I just can't win!



On a side note I've noticed the mods have started talking alot more recently. Not just on this thread but on a few others as well.

I prefer it that way honestly lol
We enjoy posting on the forum as just fans such as yourself. Sometimes we have time and sometimes we don't. BTW, if you find someone here coming in this thread to tell you to get another platform, just report it as flamebait. We don'e tolerate that here.
Ok please don't take this the wrong way, but my point is why are you telling me anything here?

I know and have said multiple times in this massive thread that my opinion of Tweet Hines is that he is an over-paid functionary at best. Really, its unneeded things like your unnecessary clarification that spiral out of control and i'm going to leave the whole thing alone now.

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Xurts hope that is what you were looking for, give us an update about what your Prof. says if you can.

Please don't be rude to another member who is just posting politely in an effort to explain something to you. Whether or not you needed the information, they really were just trying to be helpful and kind. And please remember that we don't allow flames against individual members or groups of members and that includes Pete Hines. You can flame Bethesda Game Studios or Bethesda Softworks or Zenimax but not specific people or specific groups of people who are members here. Thanks.

Now, I've just read the posts to this point and there has been much off topic discussion about moderators and their actions. We to welcome constructive criticism and there is often a thread made in CD for general constructive criticism of moderators and the forum rules. We try to answer questions and address things like that there when it comes up. We are all also happy to reply to any questions about what we do when sent a pm about it. At this point in this thread however we've talked more about moderators than the lack of content for the PS:3 which is why this thread exists. It's off topic and while we don't mind that on occasion we really do need to get this thread back on the track it's about.

Please feel free to send us a pm for any further questions you have for us about how and why we do what we do. I assure you we are here to keep folks from flaming you, swearing at you and belittling you just as much as we are to keep you from doing so to others. After all, it really does svck for PS:3 players right now and we don't want someone coming into the thread to rub a bit of salt into the wounds.

Just take a minute to read our rules you agreed to and express your anger and disappointment within the bounds of those rules. Thanks!
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:46 am

@championpuffer.. Its not just about Dawnguard why ps3 users are uspet Dawnguard is just the icing on the cake of the ps3 users arguments with Bethesda. If you go back years. Ps3 has never been a priority wheather it be Dlc or patches or communication or even just general support. Ps3 has always had a patch months after other platforms... Ps3 has always had delayed dlc.. Sometimes no dlc at all (oblivion) sometimes broken dlc (fallout). Add on the lack of communication on top of all that its pretty annoying.

Some say bethesda don't owe anyone dlc/anything, while I understand that logic I do believe they do owe ps3 at least a few things an they are

1. A sorry for lack of support/dlc/patches/communication.

2. A working game.

3. More communication.

Like most have said they should of not made this game for the ps3 at all if they only give Ps3 less then half their time.
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As difficult as it is for me to keep my comments constructive, I most certainly will. My husband and I are huge fans of Skyrim - huge. We've been playing Elder Scrolls since Oblivion on PS3 and it has been our blissful escape from reality ever since. Back when Skyrim was first released and there were tons of performance issues, I kept my cool, I had patience, and I even supported you Bethesda - I made comments on how you were doing a great a job and to keep up the good work. However, I have lost my cool and I have lost my patience. I have spent A LOT of money on my Bethesda games (Fallout 3 - NEW copy, Fallout NV - NEW copy, Oblivion - TWO NEW copies, Skyrim - also TWO NEW copies, one of which was the Collector's Edition) and now that I'm nearly being told that I may never see any DLC for Skyrim on my beloved PS3 is very upsetting. I was once excited and planned on purchasing Dishonored, but I won't now, simply out of fear that Bethesda will only support XBOX and PC players as they have in the past - and as they are now. Bethesda can give their reasons to the community for not releasing Skyrim DLC on PS3 all they'd like, but what Bethesda truly needs to understand is that from where we sit the ONLY thing we see is that you are putting all of your time and effort into XBOX and PC. That is what we see, truth or not. I'm not saying this as an insult, but as a fact. And obviously because of this, you HAVE and you WILL lose your PS3 customers. I can't imagine any company that would sit back and ignore this type of threat in future sales. My husband and I may only be two small people out of the entire Skyrim community, but you are out to lose us as loyal customers that support your company. I love Skyrim - more than any game I've ever played, so it would truly break my heart to "call it quits" - but I will unless things change soon. The last thing I want to do is start playing Skryim on PC because I hate playing games on the computer, but I will if that's what it comes down to... however, keep in mind that I will NEVER purchase from Bethesda again. I'll end with one last thought: Bethesda, if you want us, your PS3 customers - to support you, THEN SUPPORT US!

Dishonored is developed by Arkane, not Bethesda.

I think it's possible that the hardest part of fixing Dawnguard is letting go of the stuff that's already in - that's basically conceding that the PS3 can't handle everything and they have to cut stuff. So if you Fus Ro Dah a dinner table, you might not get to see everything fly around.

The other hard part of removing content is that people don't tend to react kindly to it. And since it's already paid for, it's even harden to take away.

Most of this has probably been said before, but here's an idea - don't "remove" all that clutter, just change how it works. If a plate goes flying, it cracks, disappears. No fancy animation, jut a flicker or a fade-out. An apple goes flying, it goes squish, same deal. It disappears. Maybe someone will replace it one day, But as far as the savegame is concerned, it doesn't need to worry about their locations.
The "dispose of corpse" idea from Morrowind cuts down on the bodies. Dropped items disappear faster. Add display cases/pedestals for people who want to decorate their homes without the game worrying too much about details of where something was placed.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:33 am

I have removed a few posts. Threatening, advocating and trying to justify piracy is not for discussion on these forums. Please, no one do it again.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:38 am

Many of you complain Bethesda doesn't support the PS3 users. You want better support but what EXACTLY do you want?
Of course you want the game and all DLCs to run perfectly on the PS3 but that doesn't seem to be possible. It might just be impossible to squeeze any more of a huge, dynamic virtual world into the severely memory limited PS3. Now what?

If they tell you the DLC will never come because they can't get it to work properly, you will complain you don't get it.
If they release the DLC as it is, you will complain it doesn't work properly.
If they try to find a way to get it to work after all, as they are doing now, you complain it takes too long.

You'll be upset and angry no matter what Bethesda does.

Looking back the best option would have been to never release the game for the PS3 at all.
But that's too late now. I'm sure Bethesda believed it would work well enough despite the lousy memory situation on the PS3 and many PS3 players, who had little problems, would probably agree. But now they are aware of the the severe problems that some PS3-players had and they have saves from affected players that probably showed problems they never experienced or expected. Now they use that knowledge to test Dawnguard and have to realize it will cause more players even more problems. They decide not to release it in it's current state. They tell you about the problem and try to fix it.

You're angry about that but what else can they do?
Would you prefer they told you every few days that they didn't make any progress?
No new information implies there simply IS nothing new to tell. How would it help to reiterate the same known facts all the time?
Would you be happier if they didn't release it for platforms that can handle it without (m)any problems either just because your PS3 can't?

So really, what DO you want them to do?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:57 am

Many of you complain Bethesda doesn't support the PS3 users. You want better support but what EXACTLY do you want?
Of course you want the game and all DLCs to run perfectly on the PS3 but that doesn't seem to be possible. It might just be impossible to squeeze any more of a huge, dynamic virtual world into the severely memory limited PS3. Now what?

If they tell you the DLC will never come because they can't get it to work properly, you will complain you don't get it.
If they release the DLC as it is, you will complain it doesn't work properly.
If they try to find a way to get it to work after all, as they are doing now, you complain it takes too long.

You'll be upset and angry no matter what Bethesda does.

Looking back the best option would have been to never release the game for the PS3 at all.
But that's too late now. I'm sure Bethesda believed it would work well enough despite the lousy memory situation on the PS3 and many PS3 players, who had little problems, would probably agree. But now they are aware of the the severe problems that some PS3-players had and they have saves from affected players that probably showed problems they never experienced or expected. Now they use that knowledge to test Dawnguard and have to realize it will cause more players even more problems. They decide not to release it in it's current state. They tell you about the problem and try to fix it.

You're angry about that but what else can they do?
Would you prefer they told you every few days that they didn't make any progress?
No new information implies there simply IS nothing new to tell. How would it help to reiterate the same known facts all the time?
Would you be happier if they didn't release it for platforms that can handle it without (m)any problems either just because your PS3 can't?

So really, what DO you want them to do?
I love how people keep using the big world excuse. That's funny because 4js studio's had no problem with Oblivion. I want Beth to stop being cheap and actually learn how to program and optimize a game on the PS3 or send it to someone who can like they did with Oblivion. The PS3 can handle a game like this if it is coded properly. What they did was took the cheap way and released a broken product that was poorly optimized after they lied and said it would run as good as the xbox and pc version of the game they also said it was running on a new engine. I would of rather them not lied to me and never released it on the PS3 but that is my opinion and I know a lot of other people don't share it. I would like to add this is the PS3 DG release thread not the Bethesda Defense thread all your post is going to do is draw a possible flame war of course you probably knew that and that's why you posted it.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:23 pm

I've got a feeling this issue has to do with the vampire lord form because it is buggy on pc too (it was a gamebreaker for one of my favorite youtubers)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:09 am

I'm not threatening piracy.

I'm threatening this:

Either Bethesda gets Dawnguard out on PS3 and starts treating us like customers before I sell my copy, or they never see another red cent from me.

Actually not much of a threat, considering I've already decided that I'm not buying any games from them in the future, for any console (referring to the PC as a console in this case). The only chance Bethesda has to get any more money from me is to get their act together with Skyrim and it's DLCs, 'cause I'm not getting any of them until they get the first one working.

Notice the lack of a definite timeline, there. What you give is what you get returned.

P.S. I'm not kidding myself here. I know this post doesn't mean squat to anyone, but I'm allowed to vent and give whatever "ultimatums" I want. Anger is rarely known for bringing out the maturity in people.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:20 am

I'm not threatening piracy.

I'm threatening this:

Either Bethesda gets Dawnguard out on PS3 and starts treating us like customers before I sell my copy, or they never see another red cent from me.

Actually not much of a threat, considering I've already decided that I'm not buying any games from them in the future, for any console (referring to the PC as a console in this case). The only chance Bethesda has to get any more money from me is to get their act together with Skyrim and it's DLCs, 'cause I'm not getting any of them until they get the first one working.

Notice the lack of a definite timeline, there. What you give is what you get returned.

P.S. I'm not kidding myself here. I know this post doesn't mean squat to anyone, but I'm allowed to vent and give whatever "ultimatums" I want. Anger is rarely known for bringing out the maturity in people.

THIS^^ :clap:
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Blaine
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:05 am

If they tell you the DLC will never come because they can't get it to work properly, you will complain you don't get it.
If they release the DLC as it is, you will complain it doesn't work properly.
If they try to find a way to get it to work after all, as they are doing now, you complain it takes too long.

The last one is a falacy, as eventually that work would theoretically pay off if they release it and its great (particularly if they release it at a better price value as an appology!)

As Myamoto once observed: A delayed game is eventually good. A bad game is forever.
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City Swagga
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:03 pm

i myself had the option to buy skyrim for any of the platforms and desided not to get it for the PS3 (no spercific reason really) but i do feel bad for all who bought skyrim for the PS3 and have had issues with it. it seems to be mostly because it was ported badly which is unfortunet my guess is because they set themelves such a strict deadline for skyrim on all platforms they couldn't give the PS3 all the attention needed to run skyrim on the same level as the other platforms. perhaps if skyrim was released later for the playstation 3 they could of made a better port and these issues could of been avoidied. hopfully the problems are resolved quickly and by the next monthly update you may have your faith restored with bethesda (or not hard to say). just thought i would add my 2 cent seeing as i could of easily been the owner of a copy of PS3 skyrim.
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