[Joe Alvarado]

In my opinion the problem is not that PS3 owners have to wait, I'll wait 2 years if I have to for DLC to be available for PS3 owners and pay full price for it. That's not really the problem. The problem is that PS3 owners have to pay full price for buggy as hell DLC that will have 99% probability of making the entire game perform worse than what the base game performs now which is not saying much since it lags, crashes and loading screens are 30-45 seconds with autosaves on most of the time. To me that is the real problem.

I should be able to start the DLC at LVL 75 with 90% locations and quests cleared if I wanted to, not start a new game get to lvl 10, start Dawnguard finish it before reaching lvl 15 and a 10 mb save to get "acceptable" performance. And all for the exact same price as all other versions

I see your point. Dawnguard added its share of bugs on 360. I can only imagine it with worse performance. Most bugs in the base game that I saw were funny but not game breaking. However, Id classify the "hair glitch" as game breaking, since I can't use the TG Hood when im a vampire. It would svck to have to deal with glitches and have to start a new character as well

[Chris Duncan]

It was speculated that the patch lines of code were written / planned long ago, as it seems the up coming DLC may be large you would assume they have been working on this DLC for some time now. So it is possible that this was included before the problems with PS3 DLC's appeared.

No, actually, it's not. They didn't start this new DLC until after Dawnguard. They had to have realized the problem during Dawnguard's production. So in order to have this code be older than the DLC problems, it has to be older than patch 1.6, the last patch before Dawnguard(and that's the absolute youngest). If it was made before they had any idea, it's have to be from sometime in the middle of Dawnguard's production or earlier.
If this code was included in a recent DLC creation, it stands to reason it's as recent as the rest of the code that patch 1.8 adds. Otherwise, why wait two patches and four months to add in irrelevant code?
I'm sorry, but that assumption doesn't make any sense

[Vicky Keeler]

No, actually, it's not. They didn't start this new DLC until after Dawnguard. They had to have realized the problem during Dawnguard's production. So in order to have this code be older than the DLC problems, it has to be older than patch 1.6, the last patch before Dawnguard
If this code was included in a recent DLC creation, it stands to reason it's as recent as the rest of the code that patch 1.8 adds. Otherwise, why wait two patches and four months to add in redundant code?
I'm sorry, but that assumption doesn't make any sense

I would be pissed if they just added "DLC" to the menu and didn't release dlc i am going to be pessimistic about this and say we might be getting hearthfire that way when we don't get dawnguard or the new dlc I will not be disappointed

[Max Van Morrison]

I would be pissed if they just added "DLC" to the menu and didn't release dlc i am going to be pessimistic about this and say we might be getting hearthfire that way when we don't get dawnguard or the new dlc I will not be disappointed

why the flying [censored] would they do that? Make themselves stop looking incompetent so they instead look outright malicious?

[Emily Graham]

Wow, looks like there's some hopeful signs now. I've been off skyrim for a while since sorting my web connection issues and having a CoD binge, but I've been keeping tabs on all this. Hope you guys get the DLC soon, or if not, a cut price bundle of all of them.

[Krystal Wilson]

why the flying [censored] would they do that?

To attempt to make us less upset at the fact that they released a broken game, and knew it. Bethesda still has no clue on how to fix their broken port. Why not make the consumers a little happier in the short term, and then cancel it at a later date?

They can say they actually tried to get the DLC made now that they have that in the menu. Make it look like they actually thought it would get made, so when they officially cancel it we won't be so mad. Having hope that DLC gets released will only end in a bigger upset for you in the long run.

[e.Double]

why the flying [censored] would they do that? Make themselves stop looking incompetent so they instead look outright malicious?

idk some game developers do that right before they add dlc and since there have been no dlc updates i doubt that any "good" dlc will come to ps3 by "good" I mean playable every dlc that bethesda has released has been unplayable

[Tanika O'Connell]

Don't be so sure!

Now, take it as rumor - but there's a datamining thread for 1.8 - and there's a BUNCH of interesting code that STRONGLY hints towards PS3 DLC coming soon! Here's some select lines of code datamined from 1.8... quoted from the Skyrim forums link:



And here's the link to the thread:
BE WARNED! POSSIBLE STORY SPOILERS FOR NEXT DLC!

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/

Thank you sir right when i finally said i give up, thanks for the info. there is still hope.

[Bonnie Clyde]

idk some game developers do that right before they add dlc and since there have been no dlc updates i doubt that any "good" dlc will come to ps3 by "good" I mean playable every dlc that bethesda has released has been unplayable

You said they'd add a DLC tab in the menu, but never release any DLC. That makes them look spiteful, rather than simply incompetent.

To attempt to make us less upset at the fact that they released a broken game, and knew it. Bethesda still has no clue on how to fix their broken port. Why not make the consumers a little happier in the short term, and then cancel it at a later date?

They can say they actually tried to get the DLC made now that they have that in the menu. Make it look like they actually thought it would get made, so when they officially cancel it we won't be so mad. Having hope that DLC gets released will only end in a bigger upset for you in the long run.

There's this wonderful thing called Common Sense.
After all this ruckus over Dawnguard's absence, why would they make a DLC tab that further leads people on only to tell them there's no DLC? Once they add the DLC tab, then don't deliver, it'll just make people even angrier than they are now.
It would show that Bethesda not only failed to deliver on DLC, but blatantly lied about it by adding a DLC button they have no intention of ever using. Heck, they'd look as bad as EA for lying to their consumers when there was no need to ever put a DLC button into the game in the first place

[Donald Richards]

All up in the air now. I like the new information(true or not) but still don't want to get shyt on. Think I will stay skeptical and keep my umbrella by my side. Don't want to get shyt on now.

[NAtIVe GOddess]

No, actually, it's not. They didn't start this new DLC until after Dawnguard. They had to have realized the problem during Dawnguard's production. So in order to have this code be older than the DLC problems, it has to be older than patch 1.6, the last patch before Dawnguard(and that's the absolute youngest). If it was made before they had any idea, it's have to be from sometime in the middle of Dawnguard's production or earlier.
If this code was included in a recent DLC creation, it stands to reason it's as recent as the rest of the code that patch 1.8 adds. Otherwise, why wait two patches and four months to add in irrelevant code?
I'm sorry, but that assumption doesn't make any sense

Perhaps you could comment on why there are references to VATS in there?

[Britney Lopez]

Perhaps you could comment on why there are references to VATS in there?

Because it's leftover from Fallout. A lot of the VATS values now refer to the killcam effects (as it's based on VATS), and some are just obsolete.

[Robert DeLarosa]

Because it's leftover from Fallout. A lot of the VATS values now refer to the killcam effects (as it's based on VATS), and some are just obsolete.

That does make sense.
Also, the DLC line is a single added line of code in a single part of the update. That's a bit harder to call off as an accident

[Erin S]

that's what I was thinking Beth should do. PS3 owners shouldn't have to pay full price when they've had to wait two months longer than PC players. They should get some sort of discount for the long wait. If they released them at a discount, it might also mean better sales numbers

They wouldn't do that.

They release DLC 8 months later to PS3 and still charge full price.

If you checked on the older games DLC and checked the price, its still probably full price lol

[Ella Loapaga]

Yet another long day, so sorry for late replies.

They could well have tried to release it to Sony and it could have been rejected for those exact reasons, which has lead to the current situation. We just don't know.

And if this was the case we arrive at a similar place don't we? Why halt the release of DLC that 'will work fine for most, but not all' now when it would end one of the worse PR situations i've seen? Not forgetting that the initial 11/11/11 release of the base Skyrim game was released in the exact same state.

I call shenanigans on your scenario.

I don't have anything new to report, but I do want to reassure you that we continue to work on Skyrim content for PS3. I don't have any timetables to share, but it's something we're working on everyday.

Thanks for that GStaff, and want to say i fully recognize you are the messenger and not the message writer, and only relay what you are given. But could you please pass along to the message writers, they really need to give out more info than a continually rehashed "we're working on it" for an update.

They don't wanna get hemmed in by giving out specific info? That's fine. I've said from the beginning of all this that i for one am not looking for a line by line breakdown of what they are trying. Or even a daily log record.

A simple sentence or two every other week stating things along the lines of, "We think we may be on to something in this latest batch of simulations" or even "Not looking to good this week campers..", just SOMETHING that can actually let us customers know the devs are actual working. Because 'we're working on it' is just too vague and too little information at this late stage.

Don't be so sure!

Now, take it as rumor - but there's a datamining thread for 1.8 - and there's a BUNCH of interesting code that STRONGLY hints towards PS3 DLC coming soon! Here's some select lines of code datamined from 1.8... quoted from the Skyrim forums link:



And here's the link to the thread:
BE WARNED! POSSIBLE STORY SPOILERS FOR NEXT DLC!

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/

That is interesting news. But i'm gonna take it with a grain or three of salt. I happen to subscribe to an MMO which updates monthly. Every time an update goes up, the data-miners descend. And while they pull tons of info from the code, its always out of context; never really know what's what until the update is installed to the clients.

Shoot, prolly won't even see the update til Dec. when Bethesda submits it to Sony for a hopeful release to PSN by X-mas.

[Beat freak]

Thank you sir right when i finally said i give up, thanks for the info. there is still hope.

No prob (and I get to help a fellow Heisei Goji fan to boot! )

[Hazel Sian ogden]

On a random note, if Sony did deny the Bethesda game wouldn't Beth just release that as a defense? Saying "Sony does not want our busniess" or something, a slight distortion on the truth to save their reputation?

Sure if it got out that they're game just was trash on the PS3 and Sony didn't want their business for that reason it'd be bad, but that's kind of where we are now. It at least woulda bought some time.

In both scenarios people would see Beth as "liars" and "incompetent". But at least if they pinned it on Sony it woulda bought them some time lol.

At some point I'd expect them to say that Sony won't allow the release rather than Bethesda won't to at least redirect some of the heat.

I think it's mainly Bethesda acknowledging that people are upset, and not quite knowing what to do in the situation.

Actually more like not caring what to do in the situation. They've done this many times now.

[Allison Sizemore]

There might still be some hope in regards to them not giving up on DLC for PS3.


In the new patch 1.8, someone found the coding for the new DLC and there's coding for the PS3 as well as all the other systems. Don't know exactly what it means, but perhaps it's good news.

[Ludivine Poussineau]

There might still be some hope in regards to them not giving up on DLC for PS3.


In the new patch 1.8, someone found the coding for the new DLC and there's coding for the PS3 as well as all the other systems. Don't know exactly what it means, but perhaps it's good news.

Was 1.8 a recent patch or was that the one that was combined?

[Milagros Osorio]

Was 1.8 a recent patch or was that the one that was combined?

It's the beta that came out today on PC.

[Campbell]

Was 1.8 a recent patch or was that the one that was combined?

Recent, was released on Steam today.

EDIT:

Beginning today, Steam users can opt into Skyrim’s 1.8 Beta Update. Release notes below:

Update 1.8 (all platforms unless specified)

BUG FIXES

General memory and stability improvements
Fixed rare crash when using vampiric grip
Fixed issue where Arnleif and Sons Trading Company could become permanently locked
Fixed issue related to duplicate NPCs
Fixed rare issue where exterior door would not open properly
In addition to Steam, this update will later arrive on both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. As we have new details on Skyrim content development, we’ll let everyone know.

http://www.bethblog.com/2012/10/15/now-on-steam-skyrim-1-8-beta-update/

[Kelly Tomlinson]

So wait, sorry but I'm confused.

How does the beta for the PC help the idea of DLC for PS3?

[Sammi Jones]

Things are looking up, folks! Now all we need is an official announcement. Gstaff, we're looking at you!

So wait, sorry but I'm confused.

How does the beta for the PC help the idea of DLC for PS3?

The update includes files for the upcoming DLC. Among those files are ones named in a way that suggests we'll be getting DLC on the PS3. They'll likely be putting the same patch out to the three platforms - that is, the same files are being sent to all three.

[Mandi Norton]

So wait, sorry but I'm confused.

How does the beta for the PC help the idea of DLC for PS3?

I'm with you, don't see where it does personally.

People are data-mining it and seeing lines for PS3 and assuming. Like i said before though, i am wary of info gleaned from data-mining.

[DarkGypsy]

Things are looking up, folks! Now all we need is an official announcement. Gstaff, we're looking at you!



The update includes files for the upcoming DLC. Among those files are ones named in a way that suggests we'll be getting DLC on the PS3. They'll likely be putting the same patch out to the three platforms - that is, the same files are being sent to all three.

I'm with you, don't see where it does personally.

People are data-mining it and seeing lines for PS3 and assuming. Like i said before though, i am wary of info gleaned from data-mining.

The thing I don't get is why a PC update would be beneficial to the PS3 in any way, almost as though the PC is doing a beta of the dawnguard?
And GStaff just came in and said again, nothing new on dawnguard DLC for PS3

The updates for each system shouldnt be universal as they're all coded differently. That's the issue with why PS3 has yet to get dawnguard isn't it?

I'm just confused here, sorry if I come off as a downer or an idiot or something.