[sw1ss]

The thing I don't get is why a PC update would be beneficial to the PS3 in any way,

It wouldn't.

[James Wilson]

The thing I don't get is why a PC update would be beneficial to the PS3 in any way, almost as though the PC is doing a beta of the dawnguard?
And GStaff just came in and said again, nothing new on dawnguard DLC for PS3

The updates for each system shouldnt be universal as they're all coded differently. That's the issue with why PS3 has yet to get dawnguard isn't it?

I'm just confused here, sorry if I come off as a downer or an idiot or something.

The patches are mainly the same for all platforms.

MainList.entryList.push({text: "$DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT" + (iPlatform == 3 ? "_PS3" : ""), index: StartMenu.DLC_INDEX, disabled: false});

This looks to me like they are adding the menu for DLC on the PS3. You guys don't currently have that do you? Don't see why they would go through the trouble of enabling that if they were not going to bring DLC to the PS3.

[Far'ed K.G.h.m]

So if i am reading this correctly...We are playing Russian roulette with this bit of patch news?

[Bethany Watkin]

So if i am reading this correctly...We are playing Russian roulette with this bit of patch news?

...I'm not sure where chancing suicide is comparable to discovering a slight bit of hopeful news.

[Chris Cross Cabaret Man]

Have we really reached the bottom of Pandora's box? Is that hope at the bottom? Is Dawnguard coming??? Oh god. Faith is returning. Blessed be!

[Tessa Mullins]

Don't be so sure!

Now, take it as rumor - but there's a datamining thread for 1.8 - and there's a BUNCH of interesting code that STRONGLY hints towards PS3 DLC coming soon! Here's some select lines of code datamined from 1.8... quoted from the Skyrim forums link:



And here's the link to the thread:
BE WARNED! POSSIBLE STORY SPOILERS FOR NEXT DLC!

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/

I hope its true, I'd rather not have to buy the game again on PC just to get the DLC

[Chase McAbee]

Have we really reached the bottom of Pandora's box? Is that hope at the bottom? Is Dawnguard coming??? Oh god. Faith is returning. Blessed be!

There is no hope, only empty promises and shattered dreams.

[Dawn Porter]

...I'm not sure where chancing suicide is comparable to discovering a slight bit of hopeful news.

Did not mean it to sound that way.
But its a fifty fifty that this may be what we want or just a regular patch

[matt white]

Did not mean it to sound that way.
But its a fifty fifty that this may be what we want or just a regular patch

Looking at the patch notes, i'm staying firmly in the 'its a regular patch' mindset. Not setting myself up for anymore disappointment from this situation.

Call that me being overly pessimistic...and i'd have to agree with you 100%.

[Peetay]

I want Dawnguard so badly!!!!!!!

[Natalie J Webster]

This looks to me like they are adding the menu for DLC on the PS3. You guys don't currently have that do you? Don't see why they would go through the trouble of enabling that if they were not going to bring DLC to the PS3.

That is good to see if 1.8 has a dlc menu for the ps3 its a good indicator that its coming.

[Chantel Hopkin]

That is good to see if 1.8 has a dlc menu for the ps3 its a good indicator that its coming.

we probably won't see patch 1.8 until 11-11-12 or 12-12-12

[Lyd]

Been away enjoying Borderlands 2 which after 1 month has a new playable character and the first add on DLC released, yes on PS3, heh.

On 1.08 being the DLC holy grail for the PS3 the indicator would be if you found trophies relating to the DLC on the system after installation. If there are none then expect nothing, apart from possibly more issues from the "general optimisations" line in the patch notes.

[Jade Barnes-Mackey]

That is good to see if 1.8 has a dlc menu for the ps3 its a good indicator that its coming.

Agree 100%. The worst, I repeat the absolute worst thing Beth could do would be to put a menu item on their game saying "Downloadable Content" and then not deliver.

However, there is NO indication that it is DG or HF right?

[Tamara Primo]

General memory and stability improvements - This statement always fill me with a sense of dread.

Everyone is also putting too much hope into the 'discovered' PS3 related code in the recent Steam Patch Beta. It's nothing more than 'future proofing' software. Although, in fairness I may be giving Bethesda too much credit in that respect, I don't credit them with enough integrity or professionalism to backtrack through their coding and remove extraneous references to a device which may not receive any DLC.

[NAkeshIa BENNETT]

In regards to that single line of code and stuff, I don't care at the moment.

Why? Because I'm not actually reading a code in front of my face, what I'm reading is practically hearsay. Now to the person who posted it, I'm not coming after you or anything, but let's just put this in perspective for a moment.

We haven't heard anything from Bethesda in almost 2 months and Gstaff himself has repeated the non-update message just recently (sorry Gstaff, your updates are not updates at all). Then all of a sudden this glimmer of hope about a patch that is coming out? Just sounds a bit fishy, but the link looks legit. I'm wondering though, can any of these lines be found in other patches? Just because the info in a patch points towards a DLC, it doesn't necessarily mean that they'll release the DLC on the PS3. Just look at the last patch. By the time it hit the PS3, all Dawnguard stuff associated with it was gone.

Not trying to pee in anybody's cheerios, but I don't want people to get their hopes up only to have them dashed later. Keep it all in perspective. Does it look promising? Yes it does. However, I'm in the camp of "I'll believe it when I see it."

[Scott]

Same here. To be honest what is really getting to me is how Bethesda are treating us like children. We'd respect them so much more if they'd gave us an honest answer as to why nothing it being done to get the PS3 version out there, at least they've admitted none of this is Sony's fault but just in case someone, ANYONE from Bethesda is reading my comment. Why don't you ask Sony for help with developing the PS3 version of the DLC? Or even one of their companies like Naughty Dog or Insomniac Games or Guerrila Games. It's not like anyone will think less of you guys for admitting you need help. At the moment it seems like we're just being told "You'll get it when you get it" as if we're being impatient and selfish to demand an equal version of the same game the 360 and PC has.

Or equally you could admit you honestly don't care about PS3 gamers so we can give up on Bethesda altogether. Your call. I hear Bioware are in the market for loyal fans who will buy their games unquestionable, they had a bad breakup you see what with the ending to Mass Effect 3 and all.

[Steph]

^ With all due respect, it's not the DLC that needs fixing, it's the base game. Beth squeezed their poorly ported code on to a device not equipped to utilise it correctly and now they have 'run out of space' (for want of a better anology).

If Beth are serious about bringing DLC to the PS3, they should be optimising (for the PS3) the base Skyrim code. Which they wont or can't.

[no_excuse]

I really don't see how they could have run out of space for one the blu-ray is suppose to hold up to 12 times more then a HD-DVD. The bottom line is we don't know why we can't have the DLC because Bethesda are not being honest with anyone, if they were to give us an honest answer and say "This is why we can't give the PS3 Dawnguard or heathfire" then I don't think there'd be any threads on this forum about the DLC Situation at all. My main concern is that out of the recent topics, most of them are talking about a game dosen't work, not just for Skyrim on the PS3. Isn't anyone at Bethesda noticing this? I'd think they'd be even a little concerned to know this is going on.

[tannis]

My prediction:

We will be receiving the 3rd DLC: "Dragonborn" (or whatever it ends up being called), as it appears to be a closed environment expansion - making it easier for the PS3 to account for in terms of memory. I expect this to launch for all platforms simultaneously.

We'll have to wait on Dawnguard and Hearthfire, but I am not optimistic.

So long as it was not included in error, the code to activate the "Downloadable Content" menu option is included in patch 1.8. Adding this option without including its functionality does not help Bethesda in the problems it is facing with Sony, who I believe had the "recall" option on the table the moment they walking through the door to "lend a hand." They don't want a defective product on the shelves - or in our hands - with their name on it.

We should know sooner rather than later - perhaps even today. Elsewhere on the forums, it was mentioned that a closed beta was underway for this content. No word on platforms, but there was mention of a very aggressive non-disclosure agreement. With a beta underway, the patch codes being in the public domain, and this being Tuesday - don't be surprised if we hear something today.

[michael danso]

They should of already known about state that the Ps3 version of Dawnguard was in before they even released it to Xbox. They honestly shouldn't of even spoke about releasing any of the DLC until they knew they could release quality versions for all the platforms. Sitting by for 30 days watching those damn Xbox players enjoy Dawnguard was painfull enough! But now we have to sit on the side for months on end with useless reassurances from the makers while the Xbox and PC players enjoy their skyrim games. I think that I speak on behalf of all Ps3 players when I say that I'm very dissapointed. Now we can only hope that ultimately they will finish whatever repairs they need to and have Dawnguard [censored] itself on the Playstation Store! After all its better to have it later down the road instead of never getting it at all.

[Kelsey Hall]

If it still isn't out before black friday I'll just purchase Skyrim + all DLC's for 50%-75% off.

[Iain Lamb]

I really don't see how they could have run out of space for one the blu-ray is suppose to hold up to 12 times more then a HD-DVD. The bottom line is we don't know why we can't have the DLC because Bethesda are not being honest with anyone, if they were to give us an honest answer and say "This is why we can't give the PS3 Dawnguard or heathfire" then I don't think there'd be any threads on this forum about the DLC Situation at all. My main concern is that out of the recent topics, most of them are talking about a game dosen't work, not just for Skyrim on the PS3. Isn't anyone at Bethesda noticing this? I'd think they'd be even a little concerned to know this is going on.

Not 'space' in that sense. They forced their ported code on to a device not designed to run it efficiently. They now wish to add to that inefficiency by including DLC but they can't because of the resource requirements of the base game, hence why I say they need to optimise the main Skyrim code. Which they are either unable or unwilling to do.

I have read a rumour that the upcoming DLC opens up access to the discovered Morrowind section of Skyrim. I can see the outrage now from the PS3 user base if this issue isn't corrected adequately.

[Courtney Foren]

People in PC betas who are data mining should probably try extracting the contents PS3 update pkgs and decrypting their contents before giving people false hope due to a line here or there mentioning the PS3 platform. Just saying.

[Darrell Fawcett]

This is when we really see the scramble happen.
This patch looks like it is just a placation like the rest. How many times have we had a patch that came with stability and memory fixes? Or that had a lag fix? Well, how have those worked so far?
Right now, Bethesda is just going to start throwing things at us until the next big game comes out. What they throw at us won't really fix anything of course, but at least it will look like they are working on it so they can pat themselves on the back and feel good about themselves.
I for one hope they don't release any DLC right now. My memory drifts back to my experience with Fallout: New Vegas. The game was broken, but I could still play for a little bit at a time, ignoring all the broken quests, the lags, and freezes. Even with all those problems I could still roam the wasteland for about an hour at a time. Then, they released the DLC, and like an idiot I purchased and downloaded it. Now, if my game loads, my character is stuck in The Sink. Forever. If I try to go outside, or through any door the game either freezes on the loading screen or the frame rate drops to <1fps if the game does in fact load. Then, as usual, it completely freezes. The DLC took my mortally wounded game and struck it down with the final deathblow.
Did Bethesda care? Nope. They had already moved on. I did find it supremely insulting when they released the Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition complete with the game breaking bugs, but I did what I could and did not purchase it.

Just one side point, I do think Sony is actually paying attention to what Bethesda is doing to it's PS3 fan base, even if it is just a little. I remember they tried to release a double pack of Oblivion and a Fallout title and Sony squashed it on the PS3 console. They denied it's release. That situation begs the question why Skyrim was released at all, however.

Bottom line everyone, we should have known something was up when Bethesda "forgot" to send gaming websites PS3 copies of Skyrim to test and review and sites like IGN had to go out and buy their own on release day.

Well, some good will come from this. From this day on, any title made and released by Bethesda for the PS3 console will be put under such a wicked microscope that they will have no choice other than doing it properly for once. When the next Fallout game comes out, I think IGN and other sites will be merciless with their testing and review. One glitch, one freeze, one broken quest and the reviews will be so scathing that Bethesda will be lucky if they sell ten copies. I also think that their pre-orders will be almost non-existent for the PS3. We will all have a "wait and see" approach.