Maybe you shouldn't have contributed to the huge amount of sales. You probably should never buy another besthesda game again. We'll ALL MISS YOU!!!

I think Bethesda deserve every bit of the praise. And I love the way that so many people just love to whinge about the game. The weird thing is, they probably whinge a lot LESS about much poorer games. There's just something about Beth games that brings it out. And yes, it's aimed ad casual gamers. But guess where the money is? Here's a clue: it's not the long-term fans, or the "hard-core" gamers. Please understand this.

Yeah the casual gamers that played skyrim for a week and went back to MW3 just ensured us a much more hardcoe, ACTION PACKED TES6!

woo hoo.

Only thing about it that bothers me is the amount of annoying people it has brought to these forums.

Good for Beth - they have another winner...

... but I agree that it is more a first person shooter than a true old fashioned RPG.
I still prefer Morrowind as the best game (for me).
But it's the mod-ability of the game that'll make it truly great - so we'll see.

They still contributed funds to it. Their personal preference won't effect TES 6

It is a really popular franchise, not much more to say about it.

It is a gigantic game with a very big world, even though it has lacks on the RPG department.

I still wouldn't call it an action game in a fantasy setting, as some of you do.

It honestly digusts me on a certain level.


I love the game, don't get me wrong, but I know many PS3 users who are unable to so much as play the damn thing for an hour without with out it going into slideshow mode.


Couple that with the other lists of glitches, and we have one hell of a broken ass game.


Then, on the game design front, the quests are terrible, the gameplay is in need of a few serious patches, and everything as whole needs balanced, it just snowballs.


Do I hate the game? Absoluteley not. I love it in spite of the flaws I am able to see from an objective standpoint.


Is it a mummer's farce that it has recieved so many awards? You bet your sweet ass.

Skyrim wasn't gutted that bad..There was a lot of things taken out, and a lot of things added in. It's a bit more shallow, but not a 'shell.'

I wish I shared your optimism over the effects of TES reaching out to the MW community. I guarantee you had Skyrim merely done Oblivion numbers we would still be getting an ES6. I actually wish it had, maybe they would really reconsider some of the changes they made. As it stands, they have no reason to second guess this or that feature that the community as a whole wanted/didn't want.

It doesn't deserve the critical acclaim it seems to be receiving all the time.
True.

Excuse me, but wo are you to dictate what people want/have the right to enjoy?!
If one enjoys the mw-series he/she/it has no right to play a TES-game?!
If you are truly serious about that then YOU are the one who should be punished, not everyone else.
Remember, most people play for fun and having fun is everyone's right!!

Agree. It is still a good rpg especially if you compare it to the current market.
As for its weak points i want to believe that the developers will learn from them and will refine them in the next TES as long as executives give them the time and space to do this.
What i worry about is that they will ignore them and continue down this way. Because, for example, if you see Todd's interview about the exclusion of spell making and what he says about it, it does make you worry about the game's course in the future.

It feels slightly undeserved. Nobody gets a golden medal if his or her performance has a metric crapton of small mistakes.

I fear Skyrim's success means the end of TES as an RPG series.

Yeah the choices in the game are lacking. Here I can outline all of them
1. do you want to be a werewolf? and no consequences of the disease.
2. Kill cicero or don't and no real effect.
3. Stormcloak or Imperials? This is a half assed attempt of NCR or Caesar.
4. Kill the dark brotherhood but who really wants to do that.
ummmm I think I covered all of the choices, other than of course "do the quest or don't" anyone saying there's choice in the game, play New Vegas and you'll see what an actual choice is.
But as for how I feel about the game, it could go in one of two ways. Either A. they make an even more dumbed down RPG next time or B. they'll know that they can sell millions copies easy and will hopefully make a game more suitable for RPG players. C. Another company could make a skyrim clone that actually has a great story.
Personally what I think they should do is make Morrowind with the Skyrim engine, use obvlivion combat/leveling (closeish to the orginal set up of morrowind, keep morrowind's spells of course), release that for the next game system and see people's reactions to test what direction they should go in. Wouldn't put too many resoureces into the remake and should still sell a crap ton of copies, then if it does as well or better than Skyrim that should cause them to go back toward that direction.

i'm with ya jaspcolling-

hopefully they know they can make money with, imo, a more actiony and dumbed down/streamlining-type of game. however, fans also deserve a more character driven/classic rpg experience with modern technology. in-depth, sophisticated, hard, and more CHOICES and OPTIONS. from in game to settings. the more the better. make a game on consoles that mimics the mods available to pcers. innovation and advancement.

if beth won't do it then i hope others will.

yeh I hate those [censored] casuals making the game have better graphics more voice actors and better combat

Yea well if most, like you, start to consider graphics and combat as the most important thing in this kind of games, then it's already over for them.

Nothing recedes like success. - Walter Winchell

All of which are prized by casuals yet not needed at all in a good RPG.

Yes, I'm sure Knights of the Old Republic would still be considered a big favorite without voice acting, cinematic portrayal and graphics...

Imagination is the best. Just sit down and imagine your way down your very own rpg. Then us "casuals" can enjoy the game in peace

so you do agree that the changes that were caused by "casuals" were good

http://www.projectaon.org/en/Main/Home

There's an RPG entirely in books. No voice acting(unless you read it out loud in different voices yourself ), no cinematic portrayal, and no graphics at all unless you count a few pictures here and there. And guess what, it's a frelling awesome RPG.

See, completely unneeded. Notice I said not needed, I did not say they brought nothing to the table at all. But when someone is complaining about an RPG series being dumbed down it is completely ineffectual to counter that by listing things that aren't needed in an RPG at all. I can guarantee you that roosterdad was not talking about graphics or voice acting when he made his post that started this off.