No it's not. Different people will have different opinions on whose awards are the most important. Most gamers think that Spike's VGAs are just an immature popularity contest that no one should take seriously. They pick winners based on hype, that's not how these contests should be run.

see I can agree with that da2 is horrible

Lmfao VGA is the most important? It's just a 2 hour commercial.

also if skyrim is so great why don't they show gameplay in their tv commercials and instead play some dumb movie that has nothing to do with the actual game

oh that's right cuz if they showe the game no one would buy such a boring pos

Whats the alternative? What is measurable?

No game as far as I know is 100% bug free. Considering that, when can you say a released game is finished? When its released. Thats why its released because its supposedly finished. So we believe a released game is finished, otherwise its not ready for release.

We can agree to say a game is broken when its broken. The ps3 version of skyrim is broken. I'm assuming we can agree when a finished game should be finished.

Releasing a game is the measuring variable. Thats the only way a game can be considered finished is when its released. If not then release dates are merely deadlines developers meet to make money. They're meaningless.

This article sums up the reasons: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16136691

I think what most people don't understand about DA2, it was aimed at console players, so it's never gonna get the thumbs up from those that played it on the PC. That said, i play on the 360 myself and i loathed it due to its simplicity and its bland and repetitive interiors. In fact, the only segment i can say i remotely enjoyed was the second act, which contained the most interesting npcs. Just a pity BioWare sold out and if anything good can come from DA2 it will be they won't make the same mistakes with DA3. Basically, what makes ME good isn't necessarily good when transferred over to another title.

when a games not playable its "unfinished"

i believe no1 with atleast 100+hours on 1 toon can come on here and defend skyrim cuz untill u play that much u cant know if ur game is broken r not so this whole"im 40 hours in and its perfect" isnt good enuff

Skyrim definetly does not deserve a nomination for the PS3 with the current issues. On PC it deserves a nomination but maybe not the award (poor optimisation in graphic quality and performance), for the XboX 360 it deserves the award, in my opinion.

However all the praise Uncharted is getting (all-round and in this thread in particular) kinda boggles my mind. To me, Uncharted stands for everything that is wrong with video gaming today. It's an 8 hour long interactive movie, nothing more nothing less. I think gaming should be more than a few flashy scenes with a bit of interactivity. It's well made and polished, sure, but in the end it's just a very short limited corridor game. Skyrim may be buggy, but at least it tries to provide you with the freedom to do what you want and not confine you as much as possible. And that freedom of choice, in the end, is what gaming should be all about.

It all comes down to personal preference though, which is why these awards are sort of bogus. Skyrim is my game of the year, and whether it's everyone else's as well or whether they'd rather play Uncharted - I don't really care either way!

Still

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dragon-age-ii
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings


There was no reason to nominate DAII over WITCHER2 other than popularity, which is all VGA's are. Most magazines or people all knew it owned DAII in every way possible.

Well, you can't write IGNorant without IGN.
But I wasn't expecting it to take the prize for PS3.

Skyrim has over 100 critic reviews on Metacritic across the three system, wtf is that guy even talking about?

Taking the weighted average of the three system's scores...

96(0.68)+95(0.22)+92(0.1)=95.83

Compared to Uncharted 3's 92, Skyrim is the clear winner, even taking into account the PS3's score.

i likes DA2 again i play muiltplatform games on console i know that y i feel this way but i do hear great things about the witcher2

A sandbox structure doesn't maketh the game, which seems to be your main gripe. Gaming would become incredibly dull if every 'good' game was structured the same and luckily for us, not every game tries to be a Skyrim.

One of the best, or should i say most interesting games i've played for a few years was Heavy Rain, yet i rarely play anything other than RPGs. It's better to play games for what they are and not to expect them to be something they aren't.

I definitely think that Skyrim got shafted by IGN because of the problems that the PS3 version is having. To put something like Catherine in the PS3 GOTY catagory and not Skyrim is a joke and IGN can't be taken seriously at all. Uncharted 3 will probably win and rightly so to a degree but if we compared it to Skyrim it's no contest. Skyrim is 100 times better then Uncharted 3 even with it's problems.

Agreed. If Dark Souls was so much better than Skyrim, where's it's nomination to compete with Skyrim on ANY platform.

"Another 365 days are behind us, and that can only mean one thing -- it's time to pick the greatest game the PlayStation 3 saw in 2011. Will it be the Cinderella story that was Portal 2? Can The Elder Scrolls IV: Skyrim overcome technical complications to be the champion? Or is Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception just too good to overlook? Let's find out!" - IGN quote.


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But... It's weird. In this, they're saying that Skyrim IS one nominee for PS3 GOTY....
"Can The Elder Scrolls IV: Skyrim overcome technical complications to be the champion? Or is Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception just too good to overlook?"

I don't know.
It's not fair to be there for ps3...
The game has problems to a lot ps3 users.

Definetely true. Not every game that's good has to be sandbox. I count Half Life and Half Life 2 among the best games I've ever played and they were also basically corridor games.

A game doesn't have to be sandbox to be a good game, it's just my personal preference. The games I've spent most hours on over the last years are Morrowind, San Andreas, Oblivion, Just Cause 2 and Skyrim - all of which are sandbox games. But apart from those I've played plenty of games that were more linear but still provided something new or different and didn't make me feel like someone watching a movie with the odd bad guy to shoot, "puzzle" to solve, or pre-made route to walk/jump/climb. As I said, Uncharted is polished and well-made and pretty fun for a single 8 hours playthrough, but I surely hope most developers try to be a bit more ambitious in their design than that.

Souls takes level of finesse in combat most gamers are not capable of. So they choose skyrims combat for the training wheels.

IGN and GOTY, those two just don't fit together.

Bethesda didn't give IGN enough money.

It should be nominated for PS3 GotY. IGN just can't push past the bugs and see how truly great a game Skyrim is.

Oh wow, I'm a pc player and had assumed that all the console players were just whining, but that really is [censored] horrible.

No, it's unplayable, and deserves to win nothing.

It's not only bugs...
The ps3 version has problems.

We are talking about crashes every 5 minutes to some people. Forcing them to shut down the console.

I own the PC version, I don't have problems with the game.
No bugs/lags/freezing/CTD/crashes/black screen... nothing.

It's my GOTY, definitely.

But how can it be GOTY for someone that can't play the game?

I'm talking about on PS3....I just thought that was kind of obvious as Uncharted is on PS3....

And Skyrim is not at all the clear winner, as its a terrible game is not even playable after the patch...


The lag makes the game bad, but even on PC its not incredible. (IMO)
Storyline is just bad, menu UI is awful, guilds are boring, caves have the same people in it with nothing special, cities are tiny, NPCs are mentally ill, etc.

The fact that it freezes on PS3 after every couple hours, and lags every time you see an enemy just adds to the issues.