Why are console players getting less than the PC players?

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:48 am

Don't worry console people, when CK comes out and modding community shows what it can do, we will be here to comfort you for making the wrong choice! :hugs:
Feels like I made the right choice this time. Got Morrowind and Oblivion on both PC and PS3. I discovered that mods are boring and I prefer Bethesda's work any day. Mods don't improve. They just think they know better. They couldn't create a game half as good as Skyrim.

EDIT: In my opinion of course. People are gonna disagree with me. Not saying that my word is law here.
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Laura Elizabeth
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:14 pm

Because I don't have a choice, it's either Forced Steam, don't buy the game, pirate the game (Don't do it, you screw the Devs), or get it for Xbox/PS3.

I bought the game in a store, copied the install files off the disc, and then pirated it so I wouldn't have to use Steam.

I still use Steam for my other games, but it gets annoying when my friends ping messages at me in-game. I might consider reinstalling it with Steam if my friends get it, so we can chat together about quests, but otherwise I'm keeping Steam off this one just for privacy's sake.
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Harry Hearing
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:15 am

Because I don't have a choice, it's either Forced Steam, don't buy the game, pirate the game (Don't do it, you screw the Devs), or get it for Xbox/PS3.

You're forced to turn on your console to play your game, is that a problem too?
Talk about blowing up minor "issues".
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daniel royle
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:52 am

You're forced to turn on your console to play your game, is that a problem too?
Talk about blowing up minor "issues".

I can just see the forum topics now:

"WHY BETHESDA SO DRACONIAN? MAKE ME TURN ON MY CONSOLE TO USE THE GAME?"
"Y U NO LET ME PLAY GAME WITH COMPUTER OFF?"
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:45 pm

PC players have already got less due to consoles. If not for the consoles, PC players could have got much more(e.g. 64bit exe, support for more than 2 threads, much better graphics, a true PC UI and mapping scheme, etc)

Now PC players only got slightly more things than console players.

Why no mods? Microsoft and Sony won't probably allow it. They don't provide bandwidth for nothing. And player made contents may have a chance to bypass their DRM. Face it, like someone said before, consoles are just like some physical DRM.

Why delayed patches? Because Microsoft and Sony want to make sure the patches submitted by the developers won't break their consoles. For some unknown reasons this simple process usually takes one to two weeks, or more.
For the PC developers can upload it now and it'll be ready for download 10mins later.

And remember, profit margin for PC games is much higher than that of console games. Selling PC games does not have to pay any extra money to Micrsoft or Sony. But selling consoles games you have to pay a decent percent of price to Microsoft or Sony for royalties(Microsoft and Sony do not earn money by selling the consoles, they earn it by getting royalties from softwares sold).
Also, developers can only get less than 30% back when selling a retail copy of the game, while they can get 70% back when selling the game digitally(more than half of the sales of PC games are digital now, for Skyrim this percentage could be much more due to it being a Steamworks game).
That's why when selling multi platform games, most publishers can offer a lower price on the PC(e.g. 59.9 on consoles, but 49.9 on PC).
But Skyrim did not(all versions are 59.9), so it is understandable that the PC version should have more features.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:01 am

PC players have already got less due to consoles. If not for the consoles, PC players could have got much more(e.g. 64bit exe, support for more than 2 threads, much better graphics, a true PC UI and mapping scheme, etc)
Ehm... Load of crap...?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:18 am

Ehm... Load of crap...?

No, it's just the truth. The consoles are holding the PC back. We have to use outdated graphics because you won't pay up for a real gaming machine.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:00 am

You're forced to turn on your console to play your game, is that a problem too?
Talk about blowing up minor "issues".
Not a minor issue, this would be like starting up a car but I need to log in to the internet service just to drive the car, even though the car's got an engine, gas and all the other necessities. Sorry but it's a huge issue at least for me, The PC version will always have superior graphics and modding that's true but it's not worth the cost. Others may say yes, I Personally say no.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:11 pm


Ehm... Load of crap...?

Ehm... Next time when you want to disagree with someone else on forums, especially with rude words, maybe you can provide more arguments?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:00 am

The PC version will always have superior graphics and modding that's true but it's not worth the cost. Others may say yes, I Personally say no.

That's what my friends were saying before they really got to know what mods can do
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:49 am

No, it's just the truth. The consoles are holding the PC back. We have to use outdated graphics because you won't pay up for a real gaming machine.
You seem too forget that many people don't have that great of a PC. If that many are struggling with playing Skyrim on PC now, then It would be very smart to up the minimum requirements.
Oh, and I would have bought a gaming PC if it had any advantages. But it don't so I bought a PS3 instead.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:43 am

Ehm... Next time when you want to disagree with someone else on forums, especially with rude words, maybe you can provide more arguments?

It's your choice to miss out.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:18 pm

You seem too forget that many people don't have that great of a PC. If that many are struggling with playing Skyrim on PC now, then It would be very smart to up the minimum requirements.
Oh, and I would have bought a gaming PC if it had any advantages. But it don't so I bought a PS3 instead.

Are you kidding? No advantages? Have you even read this topic?
I think you just bought the PS3 because it was cheaper, and there's nothing wrong in choosing the "not so good but cheaper" alternative, but at least be honest.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:10 pm

OK, LOOK AT IT THIS WAY...

You have a PC (the one your using now)... how much did that cost £300? so say it cost that much my gaming PC cost £600 (it can max ANY game, and I use it as a main PC for other stuff) so thats £300 difference. A PS3 is £180 so thats £120 difference. Now most PC games are £10 cheaper than PS3 so over time that £120 gap is going to be gone after purchasing 12 PC games... So the work out THE SAME. Then when you buy more than that 12 games you are for ever saving more money. You will probably buy 30 games for you PS3 every three years.

SO PC IN THE LONG RUN WORKS OUT CHEAPER!!!! I WISH MORE PEOPLE COULD SEE THIS!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:30 am

Ehm... Next time when you want to disagree with someone else on forums, especially with rude words, maybe you can provide more arguments?
You didn't prove any arguments for your top comment there so...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:13 am

You seem too forget that many people don't have that great of a PC. If that many are struggling with playing Skyrim on PC now, then It would be very smart to up the minimum requirements.
Oh, and I would have bought a gaming PC if it had any advantages. But it don't so I bought a PS3 instead.

Keep telling yourself that, child. We'll be here when you're ready to join your fellow gamers in the true joy that is PC gaming.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:48 am

Are you kidding? No advantages? Have you even read this topic?
I think you just bought the PS3 because it was cheaper, and there's nothing wrong in choosing the "not so good but cheaper" alternative, but at least be honest.
No, I'm not kidding. I don't see any advantages. I buy games for my PS3, compare it to the PC version (neighbour) and I can't see why I should buy a PC for gaming instead of the PS3 (or Xbox for that matter).
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:54 am

No, I'm not kidding. I don't see any advantages. I buy games for my PS3, compare it to the PC version (neighbour) and I can't see why I should buy a PC for gaming instead of the PS3 (or Xbox for that matter).

Then you either have bad eyes or you're just fooling yourself to keep the costs down.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:57 pm

And PC users complain when they get the same price tag as consoles...

I really don't give two [censored] either way. I don't need mods or the console to enjoy a masterpiece.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:27 am

Keep telling yourself that, child. We'll be here when you're ready to join your fellow gamers in the true joy that is PC gaming.
I'm not a child. I have been a PC gamer and moved on. Didn't say that there were anything wrong with the PC, but I didn't see any advantages to make me buy a new PC instead of the PS3.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:20 am

And PC users complain when they get the same price tag as consoles...

I really don't give two [censored] either way. I don't need mods or the console to enjoy a masterpiece.

Too bad the game isn't a masterpiece before the good mods are out.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:10 pm

Then you either have bad eyes or you're just fooling yourself to keep the costs down.
Well, why don't you tell me what is so great about PC-gaming? It all ends up on the same plate to me.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:11 am

Too bad the game isn't a masterpiece before the good mods are out.

It's ok, they are used to low standards ;)
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:12 am


You didn't prove any arguments for your top comment there so...

Next time you should learn to read the things in the parentheses.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:40 am

I'm not a child. I have been a PC gamer and moved on. Didn't say that there were anything wrong with the PC, but I didn't see any advantages to make me buy a new PC instead of the PS3.

Er, the whole thing was supposed to be read in a mocking tone. I apologize.

As for the advantages, I think today's gaming market is making it so PC has to be treated like any other console (except that it's like 2x the cost for the PC) and I think that's wrong. If people want consoles, that's fine, but don't leave us PC gamers here out to dry. GTA IV was a prime example of a game that should've been GREAT on PC. Instead, it was so buggy it was virtually unplayable without PC mods (I got 10 FPS on my PC, which can run Skyrim at 60 FPS on High graphics, and 40 FPS on Ultra-high). Bottom line: Either make games console-exclusive/PC -exclusive, or spend time on your PC ports to make them GOOD.
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